[License-review] Approval: Server Side Public License, Version 2 (SSPL v2)

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Tue Jan 29 00:11:01 UTC 2019


We can acknowledge that it is possible that their business method is not
working with a pure Open Source play, and that their perception is that
Amazon is eating their lunch and not passing on what they would desire as a
fair share - and working entirely within the license rules. In truth they
don't care what *you *do on your server, if you aren't a huge SaS company.
We never guaranteed that Open Source would work for any business.

All we should really ask of them is that they don't call that license Open
Source. They have the right to any intellectual property paradigm they
wish, within the law. We don't have to participate if we don't like it.



On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:06 PM John Cowan <cowan at ccil.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:30 PM Eliot Horowitz via License-review <
> license-review at lists.opensource.org> wrote:
> Many people have speculated that we changed our license to drive
>> commercial license sales. However, our business is focused on selling our
>> hosted cloud offering, MongoDB Atlas, and subscription packages that
>> include proprietary software that supports the use of our database, such as
>> MongoDB Ops Manager. We do not view commercial licensing of the core
>> MongoDB database server alone to be a primary business driver, nor are we
>> trying to make it one via this license.
> If that is the case, then ...
>> As I’ve written before, the aim of the SSPL is to provide a copyleft
>> license that incentivizes and protects innovative open source software from
>> the threat of ‘SaaS-capture’ by large cloud vendors.
> ... why do you care whether I run MongoDB on my own servers, install it
> and run it myself on AWS/Google/Azure, or pay one of those services to run
> it for me?  What is so threatening about the third course of conduct
> compared to the other two?  It doesn't seem to me to make business sense.
> --
> John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        cowan at ccil.org
> SAXParserFactory [is] a hideous, evil monstrosity of a class that should
> be hung, shot, beheaded, drawn and quartered, burned at the stake,
> buried in unconsecrated ground, dug up, cremated, and the ashes tossed
> in the Tiber while the complete cast of Wicked sings "Ding dong, the
> witch is dead."  --Elliotte Rusty Harold on xml-dev
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