For Approval: Open-Realty License

[Ryan C. Bonham]

Hi,

I just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback, it has been very
helpful. I will be updating the license this week and resubmitting it in
a  templated fasion this time along with some other changes to address
concerns.

Thanks,

-- 
Ryan Bonham
Transparent Technologies
ryan at transparent-tech.com



Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote:

> I think most of these questions raise potentially interesting
> practical concerns, but I doubt that these questions identify 
> licensing or open source issues.
>
> The requirement in paragraph 4 seems to simply require  a user to
> leave a preexisting HTML comment alone, rather than require  the
> creator of a derivative work to create an HTML statement of their own.
>
> It's difficult for me to think of HTML statements used for the purpose
> for which HTML is intended as Not being technology neutral. But,
> perhaps, paragraph 4 could be improved to overcome the objections that
> seem to be raised by these questions by using text like the following:
>
> "4. All websites using Open-Realty must leave the html commented line
> that reads or displays the following text:
> Open-Realty is distributed by Transparent Technologies and is licensed
> under the Open-Realty License."
>
> The program itself could Display the HTML comment by default, and the
> license world permit those who prepare derivative works to edit the
> default HTML comment as lay as the displayed text was essentially the
> same regardless of whether HTML, JavaScript, XML, or anything else.
>
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Rousskov"
> <rousskov at measurement-factory.com>
> To: "Ryan Bonham" <ryan at transparent-tech.com>;
> <license-discuss at opensource.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:55 PM
> Subject: Re: For Approval: Open-Realty License
>
>
>> On Tue, 2005/05/24 (MDT), <ryan at transparent-tech.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 4. All websites using Open-Realty must leave the html comment that
>>> reads “<!--Open-Realty is distributed by Transparent Technologies
>>> and is licensed under the Open-Realty License. See
>>> http://www.open-realty.org/oslicense.html for more information.-->”
>>> intact.
>>
>>
>> Does the above requirement mean that if I use an Open-Realty
>> derivative to build a web site, my web site has to use HTML pages?
>> Can I use XHTML, XML, plain text, Java, flash, etc.? If I use
>> alternative
>> format, how can I comply with the requirement expressed in HTML-like
>> format?
>>
>> Also, if I do use HTML or alike, will I need to add the above
>> comment to every page on the site, just one page, front page?
>>
>> Can I deploy a 3rd party ICAP (www.i-cap.org) service in front
>> of my web site that filters the above comment out of all my web
>> site pages without altering Open Realty software? Would that
>> violate your license?
>>
>> Does transalting the HTML comment into a different encoding
>> violate the "must leave intact" rule? If no, would any encoding
>> be acceptible? And if yes, would not restricting the encoding
>> prohibit users from creating web sites that must use non-"ASCII"
>> encoding?
>>
>> Finally, if I am using an Open-Realty derivative to build something
>> other than a web site, can I ignore requirement #4? What is your
>> definition of a web site then? Is an RSS server a web site?
>>
>> I wonder if it is possible to make the above advertising requirement
>> technology nuetral and avoid all of these questions.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Alex.
>> P.S. Please template your license, including the text of the
>> advertising clause.
>>
>