[License-review] New License for Consideration - Public Benefit Zero Copyright License v. 2.0
McCoy Smith
mccoy at lexpan.law
Wed Dec 18 20:52:39 UTC 2024
The problem is that public domain is a concept that exists as part of
international copyright law, and in fact predates it. You can't just
rewrite in a way you like.
On 12/18/2024 12:03 PM, Wayne Thornton wrote:
>
> I realize my last email may have come off as glib or argumentative,
> and for that I apologize. My intention in that statement was to simply
> say that I believe there is no reason a new type of license or
> paradigm cannot be created. The first step is the creation itself,
> then adoption.
>
> *From:*License-review <license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org>
> *On Behalf Of *Wayne Thornton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:52 PM
> *To:* License submissions for OSI review
> <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [License-review] New License for Consideration - Public
> Benefit Zero Copyright License v. 2.0
>
> There was no such thing as copyleft either, before the GPL. Doesn’t
> make it impossible for a new type of license to be created.
>
> *From:*License-review <license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org>
> *On Behalf Of *McCoy Smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:48 PM
> *To:* License submissions for OSI review
> <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [License-review] New License for Consideration - Public
> Benefit Zero Copyright License v. 2.0
>
> The problem is that if it is public domain it must be unrestricted.
> There is no such thing as public domain but with restrictions
>
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> *From:*License-review <license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org> on
> behalf of Wayne Thornton <wmthornton-dev at outlook.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:24:54 AM
> *To:* License submissions for OSI review
> <license-review at lists.opensource.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [License-review] New License for Consideration - Public
> Benefit Zero Copyright License v. 2.0
>
> Perhaps the term “license” doesn’t apply and that particular line of
> argument wasn’t well drafted on my part, but that doesn’t change the
> rest of the argument that “the intention of the license is to
> dedicate works to the public domain /for a particular purpose/ aka to
> benefit the general public by sharing technological innovations and
> ideas in the form of source code, binaries and documentation of same.
> “ (previous email)
>
> *From:*License-review <license-review-bounces at lists.opensource.org>
> *On Behalf Of *Kevin P. Fleming
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:11 PM
> *To:* license-review at lists.opensource.org
> *Subject:* Re: [License-review] New License for Consideration - Public
> Benefit Zero Copyright License v. 2.0
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, at 10:59, Wayne Thornton wrote:
>
> That being said, at their core, a license like the GPL and the
> proposed PBZC are simply grants of rights to use the source code
> in other projects.
>
> That is certainly true of the GPL family of licenses, but it is not
> true of the 'public domain dedication' portion of the PBZC. That
> dedication is an explicit relinquishment of the copyrights the author
> has in the work. Once those rights have been relinquished, the author
> cannot use the rights to take any action against anyone making use of
> the work, no matter what that use may be. A public domain dedication
> is not a license.
>
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