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<p>The problem is that public domain is a concept that exists as
part of international copyright law, and in fact predates it. You
can't just rewrite in a way you like.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2024 12:03 PM, Wayne Thornton
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<p class="MsoNormal">I realize my last email may have come off
as glib or argumentative, and for that I apologize. My
intention in that statement was to simply say that I believe
there is no reason a new type of license or paradigm cannot be
created. The first step is the creation itself, then adoption.
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> License submissions for OSI review
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-review] New License for
Consideration - Public Benefit Zero Copyright License v.
2.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There was no such thing as copyleft either,
before the GPL. Doesn’t make it impossible for a new type of
license to be created.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>McCoy Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:48 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-review] New License for
Consideration - Public Benefit Zero Copyright License v.
2.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The problem is that if it is public
domain it must be unrestricted. There is no such thing as
public domain but with restrictions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-review] New License for
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<p class="xmsonormal">Perhaps the term “license” doesn’t
apply and that particular line of argument wasn’t well
drafted on my part, but that doesn’t change the rest of
the argument that “the intention of the license is to
dedicate works to the public domain
<i>for a particular purpose</i> aka to benefit the general
public by sharing technological innovations and ideas in
the form of source code, binaries and documentation of
same. “ (previous email)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:11 PM<br>
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<p class="xmsonormal">On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, at 10:59,
Wayne Thornton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xqt-msonormal1">That being said, at their
core, a license like the GPL and the proposed PBZC are
simply grants of rights to use the source code in
other projects.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">That is certainly true of the GPL
family of licenses, but it is not true of the 'public
domain dedication' portion of the PBZC. That dedication
is an explicit relinquishment of the copyrights the
author has in the work. Once those rights have been
relinquished, the author cannot use the rights to take
any action against anyone making use of the work, no
matter what that use may be. A public domain dedication
is not a license.<o:p></o:p></p>
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