[License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

Lawrence Rosen lrosen at rosenlaw.com
Mon Mar 12 18:02:49 UTC 2012


> Actually, "free software" has only four defining points; "open source"
> has ten.  As for specific licenses, I think there is actual
> disagreement only on the obsolete Artistic V1 and APSL V1 licenses.  
> So I'm not clear what you mean by "broad" and "narrow" here.


"Freedom of speech" has only one defining point. You can't get much broader
and ambiguous than that! So what?

In my book I boiled both FSF and OSD theories of freedom to five points, and
my publisher created cover art with those points on parchment as if they
were the constitution of our movement. :-) I found that humorous because, at
the time, I couldn't get the OSI board to agree that my 5 were the same as
their 10, nor get FSF to agree that my 5 were not different from their 4.

What matters is the way those points are reflected in actual life
situations. *Patents* create some of those situation. And if this group
believes that we can be the ones to boil those complex patent situations
down to a few fundamental freedoms, I'm curious to see the result.

/Larry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: license-review-bounces at opensource.org [mailto:license-review-
> bounces at opensource.org] On Behalf Of John Cowan
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:45 AM
> To: license-review at opensource.org
> Subject: Re: [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents,
> [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]
> 
> Tzeng, Nigel H. scripsit:
> 
> > What I would like to avoid is that 1% difference becoming a litmus
> test
> > for what is or isn't open source.  It strikes me that the definition
> is
> > already too narrow.  Others, I'm sure, think the definition is
> currently
> > too broad...but for that we already have the FSF.  Two organizations
> with
> > narrow viewpoints strikes me as redundant.
> 
> Actually, "free software" has only four defining points; "open source"
> has ten.  As for specific licenses, I think there is actual
> disagreement
> only on the obsolete Artistic V1 and APSL V1 licenses.  So I'm not
> clear
> what you mean by "broad" and "narrow" here.
> 
> --
> John Cowan              cowan at ccil.org
> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
> Any day you get all five woodpeckers is a good day.  --Elliotte Rusty
> Harold
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