[License-review] For approval: The Cryptographic Autonomy License (Beta 4)

Richard Fontana rfontana at redhat.com
Fri Feb 7 21:11:34 UTC 2020

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:36 PM Eric Schultz <eric at wwahammy.com> wrote:

> But I'm also not going to be shocked if there's some unexpected
> consequences from this license.

I agree with this. I would feel better if the OSI had some process for
reviewing and potentially delisting or at least deprecating approved
licenses based on problematic experiences with a license that were not
foreseeable at the time of approval.


> Eric
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 11:20 AM Josh Berkus <josh at berkus.org> wrote:
>> > Having reviewed the latest draft, "Pass" from me. I have lingering
>> > concerns over this license, and the potential for abuse by Holochain or
>> > other unknown licensors, based partly on the earlier drafting history,
>> > some of Van's earlier comments on those drafts, and general suspicion of
>> > new copyleft licenses advanced specifically by narrow commercial
>> > interests. However I don't think those concerns are sufficiently
>> > grounded in the current license text such that I would recommend
>> > rejection or more protracted discussion. If this license is approved, I
>> > would not recommend that anyone use it. But on its face, the license,
>> > including the core interesting User Data requirement feature, seem to me
>> > consistent with the spirit of the OSD and software freedom.
>> Well, let's thought-experiment this onto a non-crypto project to see how
>> it maps.  Imagine that I'm Tobias, lead maintainer of Pretalx conference
>> software, and owner of pretalx.com hosting service.  What I want out of
>> the license is:
>> * reassurance for my customers that I won't "lock up" their data;
>> * a guarantee that if someone launches a competeing pretalx hosting
>> service, they can't lock up customer data preventing migration either
>> * maximizing sharing of any improvements to the code
>> Does the CAL do this?
>> --
>> Josh Berkus
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Richard Fontana
He / Him / His
Senior Commercial Counsel
Red Hat, Inc.
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