[License-review] For Approval: Convertible Free Software License, Version 1.1 (C-FSL v1.1)

Carlo Piana osi-review at piana.eu
Wed Sep 26 10:03:29 UTC 2018


Thanks Bruce,

I see that we hold a similar position here. The "Original contributor"
language exposes a kind of fallacy, that the contribute by the
originator is more "important" than the one of the other contributors.
Just because it happens before, does not mean it's more important.  It
might be. It might be not.

An open source project should belong to the commons. If it's "commons
with a leash in the hands of somebody only" as I said WRT patents, it's
not commons.

Carlo


 

On 26/09/2018 11:47, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Other accepted licenses have "original contributor" language, but not
> granting so much power. OSI policy is they don't have to do something
> stupid because they've done it in the past. They would not be required
> to approve this language on the basis of usage in prior licenses.
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 11:23 AM Carlo Piana <osi-review at piana.eu
> <mailto:osi-review at piana.eu>> wrote:
>
>     Ellmar, all,
>
>     I remain quite puzzled by the main feature of the license, namely,
>     the right of *some* copyright holders in the initial work to
>     decide on the licensing of the *other* follow-on developers who
>     are also copyright holders. Isn't it a sort of discrimination,
>     therefore against #5?
>
>     I know that the same practical effect would be achieved by
>     assigning the code to a single project, but that it's always an
>     option for any forker, not a legal effect of the license. Here you
>     give up your rights on your copyright as a condition of the very
>     license, which does quite limit the rights of some versus the
>     rights of others.
>
>     My initial and non meditated reaction is that this license should
>     be rejected as long as Section 7 is concerned.
>
>     A remark on the need to retain the ability of relicense or to
>     "make business" (AKA proprietary exploit) with the software.
>     That's achieved with a liberal, non copyleft license. But
>     restricting others from doing something that the initial
>     developers can do, siphoning in the formers' code and copyright,
>     that does not seem acceptable.
>
>     Or am I mistaken on the working of the condition?
>
>
>     Carlo
>
>
>
>     On 26/09/2018 09:57, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:
>>     Full Name: Convertible Free Software License Version 1.1
>>     Short Identifier: C-FSL v1.1
>>     URL: https://www.elstel.org/license/C-FSL-v1.1.txt
>>
>>     Rationale and Distinguish:
>>     While the BSD license allows the whole world to re-license and
>>     while re-licensing is virtually impossible with GPL since every
>>     contributor would need to consent the C-FSL license goes a
>>     practical intermediate way restricting the right to re-license to
>>     a group called the original authors. That way open source
>>     developers are not excluded from making business with others who
>>     want to base a proprietary product on the given piece of open
>>     source software.
>>
>>     Proliferation Category & Legal Review:
>>     Other/Miscellaneous
>>     A lawyer from the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency, USA) has
>>     already checked C-FSL for its proliferation properties. He has
>>     found the license to be compatible with other open source
>>     licenses. He decided that C-FSL can be used together with the CC0
>>     license in the FDtool (functional dependency mining tool) project.
>>
>>     list of software which uses C-FSL v1.1.:
>>     qcoan: https://www.elstel.org/coan
>>     xchroot, confinedrv, bundsteg, debcheckroot, dbschemacmd: also
>>     found at www.elstel.org <http://www.elstel.org>
>>
>>
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