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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Bruce, <br>
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      I see that we hold a similar position here. The "Original
      contributor" language exposes a kind of fallacy, that the
      contribute by the originator is more "important" than the one of
      the other contributors. Just because it happens before, does not
      mean it's more important.  It might be. It might be not.<br>
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      An open source project should belong to the commons. If it's
      "commons with a leash in the hands of somebody only" as I said WRT
      patents, it's not commons.<br>
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      Carlo<br>
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      On 26/09/2018 11:47, Bruce Perens wrote:<br>
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        <div>Other accepted licenses have "original contributor"
          language, but not granting so much power. OSI policy is they
          don't have to do something stupid because they've done it in
          the past. They would not be required to approve this language
          on the basis of usage in prior licenses.<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 11:23 AM Carlo Piana
              <<a href="mailto:osi-review@piana.eu"
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                <div class="m_2814651221916898790moz-cite-prefix">Ellmar,
                  all,<br>
                  <br>
                  I remain quite puzzled by the main feature of the
                  license, namely, the right of *some* copyright holders
                  in the initial work to decide on the licensing of the
                  *other* follow-on developers who are also copyright
                  holders. Isn't it a sort of discrimination, therefore
                  against #5? <br>
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                  I know that the same practical effect would be
                  achieved by assigning the code to a single project,
                  but that it's always an option for any forker, not a
                  legal effect of the license. Here you give up your
                  rights on your copyright as a condition of the very
                  license, which does quite limit the rights of some
                  versus the rights of others.<br>
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                  My initial and non meditated reaction is that this
                  license should be rejected as long as Section 7 is
                  concerned.<br>
                  <br>
                  A remark on the need to retain the ability of
                  relicense or to "make business" (AKA proprietary
                  exploit) with the software. That's achieved with a
                  liberal, non copyleft license. But restricting others
                  from doing something that the initial developers can
                  do, siphoning in the formers' code and copyright, that
                  does not seem acceptable.<br>
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                  Or am I mistaken on the working of the condition? <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Carlo<br>
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                  On 26/09/2018 09:57, Elmar Stellnberger wrote:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">Full Name: Convertible Free
                  Software License Version 1.1 <br>
                  Short Identifier: C-FSL v1.1 <br>
                  URL: <a
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                    href="https://www.elstel.org/license/C-FSL-v1.1.txt"
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.elstel.org/license/C-FSL-v1.1.txt</a>
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                  Rationale and Distinguish: <br>
                  While the BSD license allows the whole world to
                  re-license and while re-licensing is virtually
                  impossible with GPL since every contributor would need
                  to consent the C-FSL license goes a practical
                  intermediate way restricting the right to re-license
                  to a group called the original authors. That way open
                  source developers are not excluded from making
                  business with others who want to base a proprietary
                  product on the given piece of open source software. <br>
                  <br>
                  Proliferation Category & Legal Review: <br>
                  Other/Miscellaneous <br>
                  A lawyer from the EPA (Environmental Protection
                  Agency, USA) has already checked C-FSL for its
                  proliferation properties. He has found the license to
                  be compatible with other open source licenses. He
                  decided that C-FSL can be used together with the CC0
                  license in the FDtool (functional dependency mining
                  tool) project. <br>
                  <br>
                  list of software which uses C-FSL v1.1.: <br>
                  qcoan: <a
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                    href="https://www.elstel.org/coan" target="_blank"
                    rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.elstel.org/coan</a>
                  <br>
                  xchroot, confinedrv, bundsteg, debcheckroot,
                  dbschemacmd: also found at <a
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                    href="http://www.elstel.org" target="_blank"
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