[License-review] Consensus on L0-R

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Wed Jun 20 22:29:41 UTC 2018


On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Kyle Mitchell <kyle at kemitchell.com> wrote:

> RPL contains an explicit use-based restriction.
>

Oh? What can you not use RPL software for?

 > requires sharing private changes

Not an issue for the OSD.

and extends beyond "derivative works"


Again, not an issue for the OSD.

I cannot run AGPL, OSL, or RPL to provide a closed, proprietary network
> service.


There is no prohibition on running the program to do that. There is a
requirement that you provide the entire program's source code under the
license. That is not a use restriction.


> I cannot modify AGPL, OSL, or GPL code to create a derivative, closed,
> proprietary network service.
>

Actually, you can modify it to do whatever you want. You are required to
provide its source code under the license. That is a separate issue from
your right to modify the software.


> That's DMCA, not core Copyright Act.
>

It was DMCA when it was legislation. It's the copyright act now.


>
> I read and understand that you believe open source licenses
> cannot impose any use restrictions whatsoever ... I do not read or
> understand how that follows from the text
> of OSD alone
>

OK, you don't understand. I've stated the case sufficiently.


>
> Does OSD prohibit us from
> closing reciprocity loopholes in AGPL-style network copyleft
> licenses?  The answer for OSL and RPL was "no, it doesn't".
> What text of the OSD draws the line between RPL and L0-R?


It's this encumberance of totally unrelated software that is simply
processed as input to the program. It actually implements all of the FUD
that is used to spread GPL fear, because if you touch a work simply by
providing it as input to your program, it is encumbered. Whether intended
or not, it traps unknowing people who commit innocent acts.

Why do no programs with this feature exist today? Why don't you publish
one, and make it popular, and see what happens?
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