[License-review] Approval request for ZENTAO PUBLIC LICENSE

Carlo Piana osi-review at piana.eu
Thu Jun 23 07:19:13 UTC 2016


Open source spirit and open source law are the same.

The spirit lies in licenses that abide by the principles. If we relaxed
the principles, the spirit would go. Nothing is absolute, and a rule of
reason can be applied. But there are limits, like field-of-endeavour
limitations, which is a no-no. A piece of software whose source code
cannot be used in certain fields or in certain combinations, is not open
enough. It's not a bad thing, but it's not open source and cannot
receive approval.

Therefore, to obtain the badge of being open source, the license shall
adapt to the rules, not the rules to the license, for practical reasons.
Had we (collectively) acted for practical reasons some 20 or 25 (alas,
actually more than 30!) years ago, open source would not exist now. Most
of people who knew what was workable taught us that open source was a
garage developers' toy, if not a cancer.

My opinion. Others might feel different.

All the best

Carlo


On 23/06/2016 08:45, Fei Teng wrote:
> As time goes by, everything is changing and changed. Different
> situation requires different license. Changes might happen to
> badgeware license in the future.
>
> In China, a lot of developers who love open source eventually stopped
> updating their software because of other developers' violation of the
> common rules and disrespect the open source spirit.  If this keeps
> happening, it is harmful to the whip open source community.  
>
> Is it to follow all the old rules which is detrimental to open source
> spirit more important? Or to take actions to protect open source
> spirit more important?
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016, Josh berkus <josh at postgresql.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','josh at postgresql.org');>> wrote:
>
>     On 06/20/2016 08:29 PM, Fei Teng wrote:
>     > 3. A lot of end users removed the badge of our product
>     > 4. A lot of developers who develop based on our product removed the
>     > badge of our product and they do NOT share their code with us
>
>     I thought we weren't approving any badgeware licenses?  If that's the
>     case, why are we still talking to Fei Teng?
>
>     --Josh Berkus
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