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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Open source spirit and open source law
are the same.<br>
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The spirit lies in licenses that abide by the principles. If we
relaxed the principles, the spirit would go. Nothing is absolute,
and a rule of reason can be applied. But there are limits, like
field-of-endeavour limitations, which is a no-no. A piece of
software whose source code cannot be used in certain fields or in
certain combinations, is not open enough. It's not a bad thing,
but it's not open source and cannot receive approval.<br>
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Therefore, to obtain the badge of being open source, the license
shall adapt to the rules, not the rules to the license, for
practical reasons. Had we (collectively) acted for practical
reasons some 20 or 25 (alas, actually more than 30!) years ago,
open source would not exist now. Most of people who knew what was
workable taught us that open source was a garage developers' toy,
if not a cancer. <br>
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My opinion. Others might feel different.<br>
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All the best <br>
<br>
Carlo<br>
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On 23/06/2016 08:45, Fei Teng wrote:<br>
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type="cite">As time goes by, everything is changing and changed.
Different situation requires different license. Changes might
happen to badgeware license in the future.
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<div>In China, a lot of developers who love open source eventually
stopped updating their software because of other developers'
violation of the common rules and disrespect the open source
spirit. If this keeps happening, it is harmful to the whip open
source community. <span></span> </div>
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<div>Is it to follow all the old rules which is detrimental to
open source spirit more important? Or to take actions to protect
open source spirit more important?</div>
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On Wednesday, June 22, 2016, Josh berkus <<a
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On
06/20/2016 08:29 PM, Fei Teng wrote:<br>
> 3. A lot of end users removed the badge of our product<br>
> 4. A lot of developers who develop based on our product
removed the<br>
> badge of our product and they do NOT share their code
with us<br>
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I thought we weren't approving any badgeware licenses? If
that's the<br>
case, why are we still talking to Fei Teng?<br>
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--Josh Berkus<br>
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