[License-review] Submitting CC0 for OSI approval

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Sun Feb 19 04:10:09 UTC 2012

On 02/18/2012 07:35 PM, Clark C. Evans wrote:
> Perhaps the outcome here could be not approval of CC0 -- but instead, 
> a CC00 or CIP0 public domain dedication that additionally includes 
> patent right abandonment as well?
I am still trying to understand why someone writing licenses for 
Creative Commons felt that the trademark and patent rights of someone 
dedicating material to the public domain were so important that it was 
necessary to disclaim that they were being dedicated, and /then /did not 
write anything about the right to exercise the necessary patent claims 
into the waiver or the public license fallback.

I think we should ask CC to address the problem in a revision of the 

I am not as concerned about the n-1 people who can still sue a developer 
over patents as I am about the successors to the party that uses the CC0 
dedication. Historically, it's those folks who decide their rights were 
violated and take action. This most recently happened with the lawsuit 
directed at Arthur David Olsen by Astrolabe over his use of 
un-copyrightable facts from the Shanks' atlases in the timezone database.

The fact that we can do nothing about an overwhelming majority does not 
excuse us from dealing with the party that we /can /effect.


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