[License-discuss] [License-review] For approval: The Cryptographic Autonomy License (Beta 4)
cowan at ccil.org
Sun Jan 5 16:29:59 UTC 2020
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 4:14 AM Henrik Ingo <henrik.ingo at avoinelama.fi>
But if we want to claim that software can only be
> called "open source" if it is under an OSI approved license,
We don't, haven't, and can't claim this. "OSI Certified" is a cert mark
which OSI owns and has to police. "Open source" is just a public-domain
phrase we can try to discourage people from using for their badgeware or
> When I evaluate whether software is open source, I would consider at
> least the OSI and FSF lists, but possibly even other sources on
> commentary for the license.
Good. You could always ask me while you are at it. :-)
> most people out there are rather on the
> level of "Microsoft will close source Github".
I thought Github's software was closed-source already.
> I remember when Microsoft submitted the MS-PL. Some people who were
also vocal in this thread, were strongly against approving it, because
> although the license was OSD compliant, Microsoft was an evil company.
> Luckily it was approved, and look at Microsoft's progress since.
Perhaps you also remember when I submitted MS-PL and another MS license a
few years before. They were rejected on the perfectly correct process
grounds that I could propose them but I couldn't change them if the OSI
requested changes (they were too new to fit under the "legacy" category).
I accepted that and withdrew them, but I continued to maintain (in the face
of attacks on Groklaw) that the licenses were nevertheless open source, and
eventually OSI agreed with me. I was not intruding on OSI's monopoly on
"open source", because it has none.
> There could also be an "open
> source but not recommended" category for licenses that were approved
> but only used by 1 or 2 projects/vendors.
Some of the existing categories, which were absolute murder to get
agreement on, were intended to serve that purpose. A *lot* of mailing-list
participants did *not* want OSI to be in the position of saying "License A
is better than license B." I don't think that's changed. Of course,
anyone else can set up a license wizard that does make such recommendations.
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