[License-discuss] [Fedora-legal-list] Re: The license of OpenMotif (Open Group Public License)

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Tue Mar 19 23:57:15 UTC 2019

Hi Florian,

Thank you for reinforcing the difference between commercial and
proprietary, I was being lazy.

To this day it is difficult to actually install a pure Open Source Linux on
a laptop, due to the need for proprietary firmware and some driver issues -
especially concerning 3D graphics. So, you can have marginally proprietary
distributions which are free to duplicate without charge and contain mostly
Open Source.

And I didn't actually want to dig up that old license and read it again.
So, I'll leave it at this.



On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:43 PM Florian Weimer <fw at deneb.enyo.de> wrote:

> * Bruce Perens:
> > Both Red Hat and Debian treat the terms of the distribution the same as
> > what they ask for in the software. When I last checked, Red Hat was using
> > the GPL Version 2 as a compilation license. Both wanted commercial
> > derivatives (Red Hat for their own use). So, this sort of restriction was
> > not allowable. We did think about this when drafting the DFSG, and drew
> up
> > OSD #8 and #9 because of it.
> I'm confused by this comment.  Aren't you confusing commercial and
> proprietary derivatives?
> I don't think the old OpenMotif terms were anti-commercial, they were
> anti-proprietary.  (They may have been intended as anti-commercial, by
> not taking the GNU/Linux market seriously.)
>  And due to the amount of software under copyleft licenses (and the
> difficulty of meeting notification requirements in the permissive
> licenses—without distributing source code), I think any further
> restriction on proprietary derivatives would be rather meaningless
> anyway.
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