[License-review] [External] Re: OSI License Submission - PPPL BSD-3

[sainslie at lbl.gov]

Hi. Not a problem. Was in use a few years before my time at LBNL (2015) and was used by LBNL first. If it becomes more generic regarding the copyright of the entity using it that’s fine by me. It would be nice if it could still be called the LBNL BSD as it is a variant BSD first used and created by LBNL.

 

Sebastian

 

From: Chris Wright <cwright at pppl.gov> 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 11:13 AM
To: Josh Berkus <josh.berkus at opensource.org>; Sebastian Ainslie <sainslie at lbl.gov>
Cc: License submissions for OSI review <license-review at lists.opensource.org>; Richard Fontana <rfontana at redhat.com>; Will Rarich <wrarich at pppl.gov>; J Lovejoy <opensource at jilayne.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [License-review] OSI License Submission - PPPL BSD-3

 

Excellent thank you Josh!

 

I am copying Sebastian at LBNL for his awareness since the BSD-LBNL is his license. 

 

Long story short Sebastian, we wanted a BSD-PPPL to copy yours, and that turned into (rightly so) a discussion on a genericized BSD-LBNL instead of a new copy with PPPL substituted throughout, and that turned into just genericizing the existing listing on opensource.org <http://opensource.org> . Hopefully that doesn't cause you any problems. 

 

Best,

Chris

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On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 5:22 PM Josh Berkus <josh.berkus at opensource.org <mailto:josh.berkus at opensource.org> > wrote:

On 10/22/25 9:21 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
> Thanks for discussing this with us. I don't actually mind the name 
> remaining BSD-LBNL, I agree with Richard that sometimes the historical 
> aspect is actually a fun nomenclature to maintain. My reason for 
> opening this discussion was instead that the text of the license itself 
> contains "Lawrence Berkeley National Lab" in several places, which needs 
> to be generalized to <COPYRIGHT HOLDER> or something like that. And if 
> LBNL wants to keep their version with their name specifically included, 
> then maybe we need a different name for the generic version. I can talk 
> to LBNL if that is helpful also.

That genericization update is happening soon, the Board just voted to 
authorize it.

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-- Josh Berkus
OSI Board Member

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