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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi. Not a problem. Was in use a few years before my time at LBNL (2015) and was used by LBNL first. If it becomes more generic regarding the copyright of the entity using it that\u2019s fine by me. It would be nice if it could still be called the LBNL BSD as it is a variant BSD first used and created by LBNL.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sebastian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Chris Wright <cwright@pppl.gov> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 23, 2025 11:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> Josh Berkus <josh.berkus@opensource.org>; Sebastian Ainslie <sainslie@lbl.gov><br><b>Cc:</b> License submissions for OSI review <license-review@lists.opensource.org>; Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>; Will Rarich <wrarich@pppl.gov>; J Lovejoy <opensource@jilayne.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [External] Re: [License-review] OSI License Submission - PPPL BSD-3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Excellent thank you Josh!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am copying Sebastian at LBNL for his awareness since the BSD-LBNL is his license. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Long story short Sebastian, we wanted a BSD-PPPL to copy yours, and that turned into (rightly so) a discussion on a genericized BSD-LBNL instead of a new copy with PPPL substituted throughout, and that turned into just genericizing the existing listing on <a href="http://opensource.org">opensource.org</a>. Hopefully that doesn't cause you any problems. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Chris<br><br>Chris Wright</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Team Lead, Strategic Engagement and Applications Development</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Head of Technology Transfer</span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Office: Room LSB134<span class=gmail-dcelink>(609)-243-2425</span></span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Mobile: <span class=gmail-dcelink>(865)-696-6949</span></span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Book a Meeting: <a href="https://calendly.com/cw20" target="_blank">https://calendly.com/cw20</a></span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Visit us at <a href="https://innovation.pppl.gov/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>https://innovation.pppl.gov/</span></a></span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#666666'>Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory</span></b><span style='color:#666666'> is a U.S. Department of Energy National Laboratory managed by Princeton University.</span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#222222;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=96 height=53 style='width:1.0in;height:.5555in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:~WRD0000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender. PPPL"></span><span style='color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 5:22<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>\u202f</span>PM Josh Berkus <<a href="mailto:josh.berkus@opensource.org">josh.berkus@opensource.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>On 10/22/25 9:21 AM, Chris Wright wrote:<br>> Thanks for discussing this with us. I don't actually mind the name <br>> remaining BSD-LBNL, I agree with Richard that sometimes the historical <br>> aspect is actually a fun nomenclature to maintain. My reason for <br>> opening this discussion was instead that the text of the license itself <br>> contains "Lawrence Berkeley National Lab" in several places, which needs <br>> to be generalized to <COPYRIGHT HOLDER> or something like that. And if <br>> LBNL wants to keep their version with their name specifically included, <br>> then maybe we need a different name for the generic version. I can talk <br>> to LBNL if that is helpful also.<br><br>That genericization update is happening soon, the Board just voted to <br>authorize it.<br><br>-- <br>-- Josh Berkus<br>OSI Board Member<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>