[License-review] Amazon FreeRTOS - new license or not?

Hen bayard at apache.org
Thu Nov 30 02:39:05 UTC 2017


(I'm also an amazon open source person, though subscribed here under my
Apache alias)

Will dig around internally and aim to get back by this time tomorrow. i.e.)
let's see what Alolita and I dig up before making any SPDX decisions :)

Thanks for raising this.

Hen

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Alolita Sharma <alolita.sharma at gmail.com>
wrote:

> All good points. I will forward to the licensing review folks at Amazon.
>
> Best,
> Alolita
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:40 PM, Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
>
>> > I'm frankly astonished that a lawyer would sign off on that sentence.
>>
>> I'm not convinced that one did. Who do we talk with at Amazon? I'd be
>> happy to chat with them?
>>
>> Whoever can tell Amazon, and for the information of everyone else:
>>
>> Trademark grants are best done in a *separate document* from your
>> software copyright license, with one exception. If you wish to require that
>> modified versions use a separate name from the trademark used on the
>> version you stand behind, per OSD#4, that restriction belongs in your Open
>> Source license.
>>
>> In general, if you want to make a partial grant for others to use your
>> trademark, *make it a grant *in that specifies what you can do without
>> permission*. *What you can not do without permission should come after
>> that (because we can't assume the reader is familiar with trademark law) Consider
>> that several Open Source projects do make such grants, for example Debian
>> <https://www.debian.org/trademark>and Mozilla
>> <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/>. And they
>> manage to keep these separate from their Open Source licenses.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Bruce
>>
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