[License-review] [PROPOSAL] Invite Creative Commons to submit CC0 Dedication.

Chad Perrin perrin at apotheon.com
Wed Jan 4 20:21:13 UTC 2012

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:38:32AM -0500, Tzeng, Nigel H. wrote:
> On 1/4/12 11:04 AM, "Chad Perrin" <perrin at apotheon.com> wrote:
> >
> >I'll be more explicit.
> >
> >Show me where there's a link to the "legal code":
> >
> >    https://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/
> It's not on that page.

Clearly.  That was my point.

> >
> >I'll be even more explicit.  Your description of how to find the legal
> >code for CC licenses does not apply to CC0.
> No he means from the top of the license page itself:
> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

That is not a very easy page to find.  Thanks for pointing it out, but
it's not the page people looking for something like what CC0 provides are
likely to find when searching for it, I think.

After some more effort, I finally did find a path to it through links
from the main site, but the end result is that it did not stick in my
mind.  Is there some straightforward means by which you found that, or
did you find it by assuming it must exist somewhere and searching
diligently for it through the chains of links you could find on the CC

> "The point is that the 'legal code' is trivial to find from the 'human
> readable summary', being directly linked from the top of the page."
> Which is correct.  Getting to the actual CC0 1.0 page is a bit convoluted
> though.

I suppose it is . . . if you have the power of divination (or a lot of
time to spend searching) necessary to find the summary page in the first
place.  I stand corrected.

> >
> >Sure . . . except for little things like "Can I deploy this through
> >iTunes?"  The summaries suggest that, for instance, CC-BY and CC-BY-SA
> >can, but the actual legal text includes terms that make that
> >questionable.
> It's better than the state for open source software licenses.

That depends on the license.

> I see CC-BY-SA podcasts in iTunes and there are apps that use CC-BY-SA OSM
> data.  If there's a problem folks seem unaware.  There are places to
> insert copyright metadata for iTunes even if it's nothing else but the app
> description text.

That's my point: people are unaware of the potential problems, and they
don't have anything to do with copyright metadata.  Have you considered,
for instance, that CC-BY and CC-BY-SA contain anti-DRM clauses, and
iTunes uses DRM?

Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

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