For Approval: SSCL

Tzeng, Nigel H. Nigel.Tzeng at jhuapl.edu
Wed Sep 8 14:09:58 UTC 2010


I like Patrice-Emmanuel's comment regarding interoperability with other OSI
approved licenses.



On 9/8/10 9:59 AM, "Russ Nelson" <nelson at crynwr.com> wrote:

> Gregor, I really REALLY appreciate your enthusiasm, and desire for a
> succinct copyleft license.  But all those words and sentences and
> paragraphs in the GPL are there for a REASON.  I strongly encourage
> you to read the GPL, and reverse-engineer the wording to see what
> problem is being solved.  Then go and see if the SSCL actually solves
> that problem unambiguously.  Not in your mind, but in the mind of a
> hostile reader.
> 
> Legal agreements are made between friends, and interpreted by
> enemies.  You only need a license when the other guy has turned into
> an asshole.
> 
> I read through your submission email, and I don't see a description of
> your objection to the GPL, other than a philosophical objection to its
> length and complexity and that it doesn't cause compatibility problems
> (and yet it does, since the GPL requires you to license all derived
> works under the GPL, so this license is incompatible with the GPL).
> The GPL is fairly well understood at this point, so that's not a good
> reason to try to reinvent it.
> 
> We have a board meeting today.  I'll mention the SSCL, and say that
> it's still under discussion.
> 
> Gregor Pintar writes:
>> 2010/7/2, Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com>:
>>> Nothing in your text, as presently stated, would reliably prevent
>>> someone from combining the work with a GPL work and treating the whole
>>> as if it was under the GPL. Unfortunately, you don't get that _and_
>>> simplicity both. You'd have to put in more text about combining works,
>>> the entire work being under this license, no additional restrictions, etc.
>>> 
>> However, it won't be approved.
>> 
>> 
>> Fixed licence:
>> 
>> Copyright (c) years, Company or Person's Name <E-mail address>
>> 
>> Permission is hereby granted to use, copy, modify and/or distribute
>> this source code and binary programs derived from this source code
>> provided that the following conditions are met:
>> 
>> - Redistributions of this source code must retain this licence text
>>   and all copyright notices without alteration.
>> 
>> - Redistributions of binary programs which is derived from this source code
>> must
>>   reproduce this licence text and all copyright notices in the documentation,
>>   which must be distributed with binary programs.
>> 
>> - If the binary program is derived from a modified version of this source
>> code,
>>   you must to publicly release the modified version of this source code
>>   under this license.
>> 
>> THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED
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>> ARISING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
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