REMOVE (entirely) the Artistic License 1.0?

Ernest Prabhakar ernest.prabhakar at
Wed Jul 9 20:21:26 UTC 2008

Hi Russ,

I think this the Artistic License 1.0 is a perfect candidate for a  
"superseded" license, which we explicitly discourage people from using  
(and precludes certain rights, like using our logo).  That seems to  
fit the context best without causing unforeseen legal complications.

Frankly, I don't think the OSI has the clout to actually force people  
to switch away who haven't already, but this should suffice to  
discourage new people from using it.

-- Ernie P.

On Jul 9, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:

> Tom Callaway suggests that, because of the Artistic License's
> involvement (loss) in Jacobsen & Katzer, we should apply all possible
> pressure to stop people from using the Artistic License.
> He suggests that we entirely remove its approval.  Not merely remove
> it from the website, but explicitly say that it is no longer an
> approved license.
> We have felt in the past that removing the approval of a license is a
> very bad idea because it could put us in the situation of having
> someone who is using our trademark in conjunction with the now
> un-approved license.  That would put the trademark at risk, and it
> could also anger the community by causing them to feel that they've
> had the rug pulled out from under them.
> Perhaps it's time to revisit that decision?  Seems like more harm
> could be done by having an approved license which is interpreted by
> the courts other than as we understand it.
> Opinions?
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