[License-discuss] step by step interpretation of common permissive licenses

Chuck Swiger cswiger at mac.com
Fri Jan 13 19:22:07 UTC 2017


Hi, Larry--

Computer grammars can have context-free parsers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_grammar

The phrase I used was as much a term of art from computer language / formal grammar theory,
much as the terms of a software license involve terms of art from the law.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:
> Chuck Swiger wrote: <>
> > This is a pretty common mistake that developers tend to make when reviewing licenses.  The law doesn't come in a fully denormalized grammar suitable for context-free parsing; more importantly, judges aren't compilers.
>  
> The law DOES come in a "fully denormalized grammar suitable for parsing," but of course no parsing is ever context-free. 
>  
> The problem is that many FOSS licenses DON'T use a standard grammar for such important things as "derivative work" or "attribution notices." Developers and their lawyers often write or review licenses without a standard grammar. And then they assume that licensees are mind-readers or "compilers" of that legal code. 
>  
> That's the world we live in. Please don't disparage developers alone for this problem.
>  
> /Larry
>  
>  
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>  
> On Jan 13, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Massimo Zaniboni <massimo.zaniboni at asterisell.com <mailto:massimo.zaniboni at asterisell.com>> wrote:
> > I tried interpreting the terms of common permissive licenses following a "step by step" approach, like if they were instructions in programminng code, and I found with my big surprises that doing so they became non permissive licenses, or permissive licenses only using some "border-line" interpretation.
>  
> This is a pretty common mistake that developers tend to make when reviewing licenses.  The law doesn't come in a fully denormalized grammar suitable for context-free parsing; more importantly, judges aren't compilers.
> [<LER>] <snip> 
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