Restriction on distribution by Novell?
Ben Tilly
btilly at gmail.com
Tue Sep 26 22:12:23 UTC 2006
On 9/26/06, Wilson, Andrew <andrew.wilson at intel.com> wrote:
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> >> No, not under GPLv2. Novell's obligation to provide sources extends
> >> only to those who obtain a copy of the binary from Novell.
> >> GPLv3 may change this.
> >
> > Doesn't anyone _read_ the text? Any lawful recipient (including
> > non-customers given copies of the work by customers) may invoke
> Novell's
> > clause 3b obligation to furnish corresponding source code to any third
> > party.
>
> Some of us have actually read the text and understood it. ;-)
> See my response to Matthew. Your reading is incorrect.
I saw your response to Matthew. I re-read the text. I continue to
disagree with you.
> I actually had this discussion with Eben Moglen last week.
> Eben's position is that GPLv2 requires a duistributor to provide
> an offer for sources only to a distributee who is
> legitimately in possession of a binary obtained from
> that distributor. This is why
This is correct. The distributer is under no obligation to provide
*the offer* to anyone other than the distributees.
However said offer is good for *any third party*. Therefore third
parties may obtain the sources, whether or not they possess a binary.
But the distributer does not have to tell the whole world how to
obtain it.
There is a fine line here. For instance the distributer can
intentionally make it hard. They could say that to get source you
must send a letter to Timbuktoo and include the phrase "Open Sesame!"
in it. As long as doing that will produce a copy of the source, they
have met my understanding of the GPL. But they can't, for instance,
say that you have to be a customer of theirs in order to get source.
> he intentionally broadened the language in the v3 draft
> to obligate a distributor to provide sources to anyone in
> possession of the corresponding GPL binary, no matter how or from whom
> the binary was obtained.
I believe you must be misremembering the conversation.
I do not see that language in
http://gplv3.fsf.org/gpl-draft-2006-07-27.html, which still claims to
be the most current draft. That draft still says "any third party",
just like the GPL v2 does. And I don't see how "any third party in
possession of the binary" is broader than "any third party."
Cheers,
Ben
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