LAB Public License proposal
Mahesh T. Pai
paivakil at yahoo.co.in
Thu Mar 18 10:20:46 UTC 2004
DJ Anubis said on Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 08:58:30AM +0100,:
> French law is somewhat complex, as decisions come over decisions,
> and we have to comply with some judicial labyrinth whenever we have
> to write down some contractual documents. Licensing is one of the
> most complex of them.
Hmm. Same situation pervails in the Common Law tradition too. You will
be interested to know that in law school, we were taught that the
Civil Law tradition (and France was almost always the example) does
not rely much on what the Common law tradition calls `judicial
precedent'; `precedent' is legalese for earlier decisions by the
judiciary.
> A confusing L.131-3 from French Intellectual Property act tells:
> "transmission of author's rights is subornidated to the condition
> that each and every transmited right be distinctly mentioned in the
> session act and thet exploitation domain of each transmited right
> be delimited for its destination, place and duration."
Is this the official translation?? (Will the French ever have
`official' translations of their laws?? *g*)
Does this translate mean `granted rights have to be specifically
enumerated; and the granted rights may be used only for the purpose,
time and place for which the grant is made'??
If not, can you please explain the phrase `session act' and
`delimited for its destination, place and duration'?
> According to this text, GNU GPL is silent about this question. As a
> result a court can invalid this license and licensee will have on
> programs actions not legal in such a case.
Do the French have a doctrine of estoppel?? Is it possible for the
French licensee to rely on the statements in the license as a promise
made by the owner of copyright?? Or is that all promises relating to
(a) enforcement of a right (b) permissions in a copyright work
should invariably conform to the Intellectual Property Act you quoted
above??
Licensee can rely on law of estoppel if the Copyright Law does not
expressly exclude operation of estoppel.
> A court decision, while not dealing strictly with free or open
> source software, hits the real problem. A french court decided that
I guess that this will still apply to F/L/OSS.
> The same could be applied if a French author, living in France,
> decided that applicable law would be Californian courts, which
> would be considered illegal by law.
Will the whole contract / license be invalidated?? Or will the court
just ignore only the provisions relating to choice of law??
Here (in India), choice of law provisions are read in a very
restricted way. If the facts of the case do not, in any way confer
jurisdiction on the courts at the place mentioned in the contract,
the court will simply ignore those provisions relating to choice of
law. OTOH, if courts at both place X and Y had jurisdiction, and
parties decided that proceedings will be brought only at X, the
courts will enforce that.
> Most licenses come from USA entities, without this international
> legal intricacies. This is why we used CUA model as draft for our
> work.
Why do you need a choice of law clause in the first place?? (sorry if
you have already answered this - I have not followed this thread toooo
closely).
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