"Derivative Work" for Software Defined
Andre Hedrick
andre at linux-ide.org
Tue Jan 7 00:39:42 UTC 2003
On 6 Jan 2003, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> Andre Hedrick <andre at linux-ide.org> writes:
>
> > > > One of the questions about "Derivative Work" as it relates to binary
> > > > only loadable objects, is the creation of a boundary layer of execution.
> > > > Specifically, the design and publishing an API which properly glues into
> > > > an open source gpl program or kernel(ie loadable modules services) designed
> > > > to provide an execution layer between the GPL and Commerial private code.
> > > > Where as no GPL code in any form is allowed to touch the Commerial code.
> > > > The converse is true, obviously. The execution layer or boundary.
> > > > Now using this reference from 1995, many companies have gotten legal
> > > > positions about binary modules.
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=4b0rbb%245iu%40klaava.helsinki.fi
> > >
> > > What Linus says presumably is valid for Linux. RMS agrees with that
> > > in the message you forwarded. It doesn't necessarily apply to any
> > > program other than Linux. Note in particular the last paragraph in
> > > Linus's message.
> >
> > If all one is using are headers or .h files and everything else is from
> > scratch, does using the headers under the statement above comply with the
> > intent?
> >
> > I am not seeking an opinion without paying for it.
>
> I guess I'm not sure which you mean when you say ``the statement
> above.'' The statement by Linus or the statement by RMS? I expect
> that the answer is different.
>
> I think it's clear that you can sell binary loadable modules for
> Linux--or, at any rate, as clear as it can be in the absence of actual
> law or precedent. Given Linus's public statements, I personally would
> have no legal concerns about a business plan based on selling binary
> modules for Linux.
>
> If you're talking about something other than Linux, it might help if
> you said what you are talking about.
>
> I am not a lawyer. My experience is that different lawyers will give
> you different advice in this area.
The IANAL leaves a concern.
>
> > > > I ship and sell binary only products, so I have an interest in not
> > > > restricting people.
> > >
> > > Other than your customers, presumably. Restrictions cut both ways.
> >
> > In what way would a restrict cut both ways here?
>
> Binary only products restrict your customers, by comparison to source
> code products. I'm not questioning your decision to sell binary only
> products; I'm just pointing out that by following a scheme of not
> restricting module distributors, you are choosing to restrict module
> users. It's not a case of ``not restricting people,'' as you put it;
> it's a case of choosing which restrictions to use.
``not restricting'' access to my house when the bank issues a forclosure
(sp). I am here to sell to cover my costs, build a small war chest.
Dump the product to opensource at that point and move to the next
generation of new technology.
Develop, Sell, War Chest, Release :: repeat
What more could the open source want, other than to confuse "wishes and
horses" ?
--Andre
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