Backlog assistance?
Alex Stewart
alex at foogod.com
Sun Sep 23 01:44:13 UTC 2001
David Johnson wrote:
> A far better solution would be to encourage "template" licenses, and work
> towards converting existing licenses into templates. The BSD license is a
> good example of a simple one.
I tend to agree with this. The Apache license is another example (I
note it primarily because there's already two different licenses (Apache
and Vovida) listed in the OSI certified list which appear to be
word-for-word identical except for the names. I think it might also be
a really useful tactic to say something along the lines of:
Here are OSI certified templates. If you create a license by sticking
your name/information/etc into the appropriate fields of this license
without modifying anything else, it will be automatically certified
within (whatever the minimum reasonable turnaround is (preferably a week
or two) and stuck in the list. If you do your own thing, it could take
months (or longer) to get it certified.
Seems to me that by itself might encourage people to look a lot harder
at the templates before deciding to submit their own. Right now there's
no indication that there's any real advantage (or "fast track") to not
rolling one's own.
> In my seldom humble opinion, the existing license set encompasses the
> complete Open Source domain. There may be a few bare spots here and there,
> but by and large if you need a certain set of permissions and restrictions,
> an existing license will do.
Excuse me, but I strongly disagree with this, speaking as somebody who's
just gone through a fair amount of work (which I would happily have
avoided if possible) to create my own license specifically because none
of the other OSI licenses come very close to supporting the set of
features I want (and yes, my license is fully OSD compliant). The
existing license set encompasses the complete _conventional_ Open Source
domain, but frankly the reason most licenses are derivative is because
most people aren't being very creative. I worked very hard and looked
everywhere I could to find a license that said what I wanted and it
ain't there, so I finally gave up and spent the effort to make it. I
might even submit it to the OSI if I can convince myself that anybody in
this dessicated venue will even bother to consider looking at it..
Or maybe I won't bother. I like the concept of the OSI and what they're
ostensibly doing, and I'd even like to help, but when it comes right
down to it, it's not like OSI certification is actually _useful_ for
anything..
-alex
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