[CAVO] Online AAAS election

Mon Oct 19 02:54:44 UTC 2015

David,

As long as the software itself is FOSS, I don't care what other business models a vendor has. I don't put Red Hat into a special class of "open source companies."  Oracle is also an open source company.  Variety of modus operandi is the spice of technology life.

As for conflicts because of collecting marketing data: Google is another open source company that collects gazillions of bytes of marketing and social networking data. No sin there.... It would, however, be a sin to collect private voting data for personal or for profit use.

/Larry

From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david at drrw.info] 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 7:35 PM
To: lrosen at rosenlaw.com; CAVO <cavo at opensource.org>
Subject: Re: [CAVO] Online AAAS election

Larry,

Basically there are two camps for any software solutions

1) Vendors - for profit - normal business modus operandi applies - they are NOT giving anyone access to their code

2) Open source companies - the approach is in the name! Then they provide services and support on a fee basis - this is the classic "RedHat" model - a $1B a year revenue company - so clearly the model works.

David

p.s. If you are collecting marketing data, and that ties back into tracking who has voted, and sending them reminders - and incentives - and social networking - and you don't think that could have conflicts?!

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Subject: Re: [CAVO] Online AAAS election
From: "Lawrence Rosen" <lrosen at rosenlaw.com <mailto:lrosen at rosenlaw.com> >
Date: Sun, October 18, 2015 10:27 pm
To: "'CAVO'" <cavo at opensource.org <mailto:cavo at opensource.org> >
Cc: Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com <mailto:lrosen at rosenlaw.com> >

> doing marketing survey's seems somewhat of a conflict of interest.

Why?

> open source is key for people who are claiming integrity of their elections.

There is no need to sell me on that. :-) But one way that open source software is sometimes created is by proprietary companies realizing that they are not making money by selling their software, but by selling services (such as marketing surveys?). Perhaps there are proprietary companies like this one out there ready to make the leap to FOSS by donating their software for a GPLv3 project? This can perhaps enhance their service business.

I'm just wondering about the elections software that's out there....

/Larry

From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david at drrw.info] 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 7:12 PM
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Subject: RE: [CAVO] Online AAAS election

No.

However - also doing marketing survey's seems somewhat of a conflict of interest.

Again - open source is key for people who are claiming integrity of their elections.

David

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Subject: [CAVO] Online AAAS election
From: "Lawrence Rosen" < <mailto:lrosen at rosenlaw.com> lrosen at rosenlaw.com>
Date: Sun, October 18, 2015 2:09 pm
To: "'CAVO'" < <mailto:cavo at opensource.org> cavo at opensource.org>
Cc: Lawrence Rosen < <mailto:lrosen at rosenlaw.com> lrosen at rosenlaw.com>

Do any of you know about this software? /Larry

http://www.aaas.org/annual-election?et_rid=54800781 <http://www.aaas.org/annual-election?et_rid=54800781&et_cid=52288> &et_cid=52288  

>From that website: "The election is administered by Survey & Ballot Systems — a company specializing in secure member voting and independently verifiable results."

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