[License-review] Output derivatives clause
Pamela Chestek
pamela at chesteklegal.com
Mon Dec 29 01:47:23 UTC 2025
On 12/28/2025 5:32 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 12/15/25 9:19 AM, Moming Duan wrote:
>> That said, I remain focused on this issue and will continue to
>> explore whether there is a valid case for MG-BY-SA as a proprietary
>> model license rather than an open source one. My concern is that, in
>> the worst case, large-scale distillation could reduce the willingness
>> of organizations to release open models such as Qwen (under
>> Apache-2.0), pushing them instead toward proprietary service
>> agreements that explicitly prohibit behaviors like distillation. The
>> reverse is also possible, as some models, like DeepSeek and Qwen,
>> have relicensed from custom licenses to OSI-approved licenses.
>
> Please do! This is a very important question for the OSS licensing of
> models. It may turn out that it's impossible because of the
> limitations of copyright on model output, but if so, let's figure that
> out definitively.
>
Let me chime in that, although the end result may not have been what you
expected at the beginning of the process, it was a very valuable
exercise that helped everyone think through some of the angles. I want
to thank you for your dedication to the effort and your willingness to
listen and respond to the comments you received.
Pam
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