[License-review] For Approval: Convertible Free Software License, Version 1.3 (C-FSL v1.3)

Rob Landley rob at landley.net
Thu Jan 10 06:59:55 UTC 2019

On 1/9/19 7:22 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 1/9/19 3:04 PM, Bruce Perens wrote:
>> XFree86 /forked /twice when license decisions prompted the developers to
>> decide that their current management was an impediment to the project.
>> It didn't destroy the project either time, it just made a particular
>> organization irrelevant to its future.
> That's like saying "Europe survived two world wars, they can't be that bad."

No, it's like saying after two world wars the governments of Europe wound up
with democracy rather than monarchy because democracy is thus more resilient
than monarchy.

> Maybe pick a better example than X.

You took the wrong lesson from the analogy. The bad things happened _anyway_.
What methods of organization _survived_ the bad things?

AT&T taking Unix proprietary after Steve Jobs convinced a judge to extend
copyright to cover binaries in 1983 was unrelated to BSDi claiming ownership of
the BSD porting work Bill and Lynne Jolitz did in their spare time 5 years later
(so they deleted it and started over, which cost BSD's 386 release a year) which
was unrelated to AT&T hiring away a generation of FreeBSD developers in 1997
(including maintainer Jordan Hubbard) to work on MacOS X which was unrelated to
Caldera getting taken over by toxic loons circa 2002 and renaming itself SCO and
suing the entire Linux community...


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