Approval of IWL - Consolidated Response

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Tue May 27 15:57:28 UTC 2008


Brendan Scott wrote:
> To that end, OKL is operating from the understanding that all of the substantive issues with the licence relate to clause 1(c)(ii) of the licence text.  If this is not the case, please let me know.
>   
I don't think anyone has bothered to focus on smaller issues of the 
license after seeing that the bigger ones would keep it from passing. 
These will have to be addressed once the larger problems are fixed.
> Further, comments on clause 1(c)(ii) have related to OSD #6 and OSD #9 (by Mr Perens and Mr Flaschen).  Despite Mr Perens' subsequent post it is not clear to OKL that clause 1(c)(ii) results in an issue with either OSD #6 or OSD #9.  More importantly, if it does result in an issue, why  - if it is to be remedied OKL will need to understand the cause of the concern.  Is the main issue here the one raised by Mr Rosen (that the licence may overstep the bounds of (US) copyright law)?
>   
It's not just the law. An OSD-compliant license should not encumber 
programs that just _use_ it, and the OSD provisions noted read against 
that sort of use.
> In addition there have been some comments about the use of a program licensed under the IWL.  The licence permits the use of the program.  Each of the conditions 1(a)-(d) in the licence is preconditioned on there being a "redistribution".
Yes, but this is a redistribution containing 1) the IWL program, and 2) 
a program that just makes use of it but is to be encumbered.

So, I think it's not a problem with the license text, so much as it is 
that what you are trying to do just doesn't work in an Open Source 
license. You are not the first to hit this issue, it's been a problem 
for MySQL, because their main product was a server and there were 
non-GPL libraries that could access it. I think you can write some sort 
of shared-source or proprietary license that does what you want. As 
Rosen said, it has to be through contract law.

    Thanks

    Bruce



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