[License-discuss] [License-review] For approval: The Cryptographic Autonomy License (Beta 4)

Nicholas Matthew Neft Weinstock nweinsto at qti.qualcomm.com
Mon Jan 6 17:45:38 UTC 2020

If OSI pursues this approach, what do you call these licenses that are just starting to be used in the real world but have not yet been reviewed and approved by OSI?  Can they be called Open Source?  If not, it seems like a significant obstacle to getting these licenses into practical use.  How can a project call itself Open Source if its license can't be called Open Source because it is too new for OSI to be willing to review it?


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> From: License-discuss <license-discuss-bounces at lists.opensource.org> On
> Behalf Of Richard Fontana
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 8:47 PM
> To: License-discuss at lists.opensource.org
> Subject: [EXT] Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] For approval: The
> Cryptographic Autonomy License (Beta 4)
> (Moved to license-discuss)
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:06 PM VanL <van.lindberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  Is one takeaway here that people should start by ignoring the OSI process
> and just start using the license?
> Maybe. Not ignoring, but postponing.
> The handful or so of the first licenses recognized by the OSI as 'open source'
> had already been in wide use for years at the time the OSI was founded in
> 1998. Looking back (over a ~21 year period), I believe the OSI may have taken
> the wrong path very early on by developing a process that encouraged
> submission of novel, community-untested licenses. This gave us, at various
> points in history, the corporate vanity licenses, the "crayon" and bad-
> thought-experiment licenses, and possibly licenses motivated largely by
> individual-author ego.
> Maybe it would be better for OSI to have the expectation that license review
> will only take place some months or years after a license is already in practical
> use. Users of new licenses could be expected to make clear that the licenses
> are not OSI-approved.
> Richard
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