[License-discuss] OSL, Apache and PrestaShop

[Antoine Thomas]

Dear Larry,

Thank you very much for your answer. I will forward your email to our legal
team, and add Apache v2 to the list of cleared licenses.

Have a nice weekend,

Antoine



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Antoine Thomas aka ttoine

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On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 16:36, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen at rosenlaw.com> wrote:

> Dear Antoine,
>
>
>
> I saw your posting on license-discuss@ and read your email below. You are
> perfectly right: There is no problem aggregating Apache and OSL code. Both
> licenses allow it. I stand completely by my earlier blog posting on this
> topic.
>
>
>
> I remain surprised that there was any reluctance even for non-lawyers to
> confirm that on license-discuss at . Both licenses are perfectly clear that
> only *derivative works* of OSL must be released under the OSL, and ASL
> doesn't care at all.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Larry
>
>
>
> Lawrence Rosen
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> *From:* Antoine Thomas <antoine.thomas at prestashop.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 4:28 AM
> *To:* lrosen at rosenlaw.com
> *Subject:* OSL, Apache and PrestaShop
>
>
>
> Dear Lawrence,
>
>
>
> I am contacting you for in the past, you have answered an interview about
> the OSL and the AFL published on PrestaShop blog (
> https://www.prestashop.com/en/blog/interview-lawrence-rosen-author-open-software-licence
> )
>
>
>
> In this interview, you state that, I quote, "The OSL/AFL licenses intend
> to eliminate such confusion. These licenses do not affect independently
> written code at all, no matter how aggregated." And, at PrestaShop, we
> would need to have a few precisions.
>
>
>
> To give you a bit of context, I am currently working for the PrestaShop
> company, and I do my best to study and improve the maturity of the
> PrestaShop project, with the support of our legal team, the developers, and
> other teams. One of the big taks is the legal compliance: this topic is
> more and more important today, because more and more companies want to use
> open source software, but they don't want to take risks for their business.
> So, after a review of the license all the dependencies and sub-dependencies
> of the project, we found that most are distributed with MIT or BSD.
>
>
>
> However, there are a few libraries distributed with the Apache v2 license,
> and, currently, we are not sure if this is ok to ship them in the
> PrestaShop installer. We know that Magento, who uses OSL too, are shipping
> Apache v2 libraries, like some from Elastic. So, it might be good. But, our
> legal team can't find a clear confirmation that this is possible, and that
> it does not represent a compliance failure.
>
>
>
> When I read your interview, and other documents about OSL, my feeling is
> that the OSL allows to distribute the code with any aggregated software
> (e.g dependencies), and does not require to change their license. And that,
> of course, only derivative work of the code in OSL must be in OSL. But, I
> am not a lawyer, and our legal team is looking for a clear statement.
>
>
>
> That is why, recently, I sent a question about this problem to the OSI
> mailing list, where the answer was, to make it short: "ask a lawyer". Then,
> I thought that you were certainly the best person to confirm what is the
> right way to aggregate libraries in an OSL project, and what are the
> compatible licenses. And so, in a way, that would also clarify what you
> told in this old interview.
>
>
>
> So, if you could provide some clarification in an answer, or links to
> already existing resources, that would be a great help for the PrestaShop
> project and its users.
>
>
>
> Of course, if you need more details or information, please let know. I
> will be available.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you,
>
>
>
> Antoine
>
>
>
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> *Antoine Thomas aka ttoine*
>
> Developer Advocate
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>
> antoine.thomas at prestashop.com
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