[License-discuss] OSI is not a trade association

Christine Hall christine at fossforce.com
Thu Jul 4 12:57:06 UTC 2019


Well we've certainly successfully convinced business to adopt open 
source. To the point that they make open source for everyday computer 
users seem insignificant by comparison.

Christine Hall
Publisher & Editor
FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
http://fossforce.com

On 7/3/19 8:55 PM, John Cowan wrote:
> There was a time when the OSI believed that the more licenses the 
> merrier, as long as they all complied with the OSD.  At that time we 
> were trying to encourage companies to release their code as FLOSS, no 
> matter what annoying conditions they put on it.  Only later did the 
> costs to both developers and end users of having zillions of slightly 
> different and incompatible licensing regimes sink in.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:46 PM Christine Hall <christine at fossforce.com 
> <mailto:christine at fossforce.com>> wrote:
> 
>     It's my understanding that OSI has always campaigned against license
>     proliferation.
> 
>     Christine Hall
>     Publisher & Editor
>     FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
>     http://fossforce.com
> 
>     On 7/3/19 5:29 PM, James wrote:
>      > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:17 PM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com
>     <mailto:bruce at perens.com>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >> James, I understand the problem of the companies pushing for
>     that, but a license that everyone can use except Amazon, or SaaS
>     companies, or SaaS companies over a certain size, isn't copyleft and
>     isn't "strong" copyleft. It's just restrictive. Heather and Kyle
>     came up with "Polyform", which IMO sounds too much like "colorforms"
>     but it's fine as long as you don't call it "Open Source" or "Free
>     Software".
>      >
>      > Perhaps I didn't phrase clearly, but I wasn't disagreeing with you
>      > about not calling it "Open Source" or "Free Software". I agree it
>      > shouldn't be called that.
>      >
>      > Clarified for you, my comments meant to state:
>      > 1) OSI should campaign against proliferation as part of it's mission.
>      > 2) Companies are now trying out restrictive, non-open source
>     licenses.
>      > I think it's a mistake, and what they really want is normal copyleft.
>      >
>      > Thanks,
>      > James
>      >
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