[License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL) 0.4.0

Tzeng, Nigel H. Nigel.Tzeng at jhuapl.edu
Fri Aug 19 20:02:35 UTC 2016


From: License-discuss <license-discuss-bounces at opensource.org<mailto:license-discuss-bounces at opensource.org>> on behalf of "lrosen at rosenlaw.com<mailto:lrosen at rosenlaw.com>" <lrosen at rosenlaw.com<mailto:lrosen at rosenlaw.com>>


>There are other important reasons besides "aging out" why the claims of copyright on parts of functional works like software are often denied. (See 17 U.S.C. 102(b), for example.) Aging out isn't the only obstacle to copyright claims >that make the copyright aspects of FOSS licenses unenforceable while they remain contracts to disclaim warranties. So when several here suggested that ALL FOSS WORKS probably contain public domain content, this is ANOTHER >example not involving aging.



>The USG and ARL are not unique. Public domain is what it is for software works for everyone here (and probably abroad too). A unique FOSS license isn't necessary to "protect copyrights" in public domain works. Almost any FOSS >contract will work to protect the licensor.



The point is that the code fond in other FOSS WORKS that are in the public domain is generally not significant enough to contain an implantation of a software patent.  This is why your shakespeare example isn't valid and why the USG and ARL could be unique.  Software in the public domain have neither an implicit or explicit patent grant.  Which should be a concern of ARL.

OSS licenses that do not explicitly handle the public domain case does not apparently meet the needs of the ARL (and probably the rest of the USG) because there may be a issue when no copyright exists.

That said, it occurs to me that ARL would not want to use an Apache style patent grant but a ECL v2 style grant.  Otherwise someone at the DOE could release source code that implements a patent owned by ARL that they are licensing to industry for royalties.  Or vice versa.

Under 15 US Code § 3710c a.1.A.i

The head of the agency or laboratory, or such individual's designee, shall pay each year the first $2,000, and thereafter at least 15 percent, of the royalties or other payments, other than payments of patent costs as delineated by a license or assignment agreement, to the inventor or coinventors, if the inventor's or coinventor's rights are assigned to the United States.

According to this site:  http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9004.html

 It is estimated that the government has title to over 30,000 patents and annually files several thousand new applications.

Ugh. I'm perfectly happy to give away my own code and patents when I choose to do so but I would be very unhappy if I accidentally gave away someone else's work and cost them thousands of dollars of lost royalties.

My assumption is that the USG is treated as a single legal entity for patent and copyright purposes which may be incorrect.  Even if not, one would assume that ARL would be treated as part of the Army and could impact any other Army lab, FFRDC, UARC or university and other organizations conducting research for the Army.
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