Which DUAL Licence should I choose.

Thomas Schneider Thomas.Schneider at thsitc.com
Thu Aug 4 22:22:58 UTC 2011


Hello Fernando,
    1.) Thanks for your contribution.
    2.) I think copanies breaking my LICENCE RULES will do have a BAD time!
    3.) I will collect all the incomping related messages on this issue 
for a while,
and do the take the proper decisions.

I'm NOT, repeat NOT, comfortable now (at the minute) to *partly open source*
PP (for instance, only for classic Rexx, and ooRexx, and  NetRexx, and Java)
as *this will allow to break by LICENCE RULES. :-(

Still thinking ....
Thomas.
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Am 04.08.2011 23:26, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> Leaving the legalese aside, I think the point is moot. As this is 
> software used "in-house" by big corporations, how does the author know 
> that the product was used to convert 1000 source code lines or 10,000 
> ? or that the executable has not been tampered to avoid the 1000 lines 
> count?
>
> As software tends to be modular by nature, they could just break down 
> a 100,000 lines of code program in its different routines and run a 
> batch conversion, 1000 lines at a time (supposing the sub-routines are 
> small enough), using the free version, and again, how would the author 
> know?. He can´t.
>
> I think Thomas´ approach is wrong, on many levels.
>
> 1. PL/I and COBOL are of interest ONLY to big corporations.
> 2. Rexx, Java and Netrexx have more usage by enthusiasts and "common 
> users" (non-corporations).
>
> Hence, what I would do is release the parser and Rexx and Java 
> definitions under any open source license he likes, and then SELL THE 
> PL/I and COBOL language definitions and translation routines, as 
> propietary software, with any price he likes.
>
> Oracle gives away the free community buld of MySQL, and at the same 
> time sells the more powerful propietary Oracle database to 
> corporations. Learn from that...
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> FC
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 18:16, John Cowan <cowan at mercury.ccil.org 
> <mailto:cowan at mercury.ccil.org>> wrote:
>
>     David Woolley scripsit:
>     >
>     >> What would *you think* that a fair amount of source code lines
>     for FREE
>     >> Usage is?
>     >>
>     >> 5.000 Lines of PL/I or COBOL Code?
>     >> 10.000 Lines?
>     >>
>     >> *or what* do you think there in the UK & USA?
>     >>
>     > The UK doesn't have "fair usage" provisions, and I live in the UK.
>
>     He means, "How much should *I* allow as fair usage before demanding
>     money?"  which is a very different question.
>
>     In fact, "fair dealing" is recognized under the Copyright, Designs,
>     and Patents Act 1988, and provides a safe harbor for copying done for
>     specified non-commercial purposes.  A U.S. court must take not only
>     purpose into account, but the effect of the copying on the commercial
>     value of the original, the nature of the work being copied, the amount
>     and substantiality of the portion copied, and (by judicial
>     construction)
>     whether the copied work is a parody of the original.
>
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