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<span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">Hi McCoy and all,</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">Thank you for the careful review and the structured questions.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);"><b>On the preamble difference:</b></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">There is a difference in the language in the preamble of ModelGo Zero
vs ModelGo Attribution. ModelGo Zero specifically points out the Sec 3 disclaimer, but Attribution does not. Also Attribution says that if you don't agree to the terms, then no rights are granted; ModelGo Zero doesn't require this. Is there a reason for that
discrepancy between licenses? Should they be synchronized in this section of the license to be identical?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">When we removed the condition from Zero, the preamble was adjusted
accordingly: MG0 has no obligations, so its acceptance clause only asks the user to read and understand the license (pointing to the Section 3 disclaimer); MG-BY carries attribution obligations, so it keeps the "agree to be bound" structure.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);"><b>About Q1-Q4:</b> for the community's reference, here is the
relevant background from ModelGo review threads:</span></p>
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<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Moming, Feb 2025: the submission identified the chatbot/remote-access scenario as a design target [2]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Josh, Feb 2025: flagged the AGPL-style nature of the hosted/API licensing [3]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Yokoi-san, Sep 2026: asked how the Section 2.2(a) conditions operate for hosted-only deployments; the steward's follow-up confirmed the reading [4][5]</span></li></ul>
<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);"><b>Q2 (Model + Complementary Materials in one definition):</b></span></p>
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<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Pam, Mar 2025: raised the "collectively" vs "and/or" question [6]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Moming, Mar 2025: clarified the intent [7]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Josh, Feb 2025: asked for expert review of the definition [3]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Moming, Jul 2025: tightened the definition [8]</span></li></ul>
<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);"><b>Q3 (termination directed only at the Licensor; patent claim
terminating the copyright grant):</b></span></p>
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<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">McCoy, May 2025: concluded "not an OSD violation, but an uptake issue" [9]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Moming, Jun 2025: the automatic-termination change [10]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">OpenMDW thread, Aug-Sep 2026: precedents for patent claims terminating copyright grants [11]; Yokoi-san's three-axis framing [12]</span></li></ul>
<p style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;"><span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);"><b>Q4 (the Derivative Materials trigger):</b></span></p>
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<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">McCoy, May 2025: first raised the overbreadth concern (the "Liberty or Death" reading) [9]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Moming, May 2025: responded on "patent trap" and uptake grounds [1]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<span style="text-transform: none;" role="presentation">Moming, Dec 2025: excluded distillation-based models from Derivative Materials [13]</span></li><li style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">
<div role="presentation"><span style="text-transform: none;">McCoy, Sep 2026: contrasted MG-BY with OpenMDW-1.1 [14]</span></div>
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Should the community have additional questions on these matters, I am happy to provide further clarification.</div>
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<span style="font-family: -apple-system, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; color: rgb(29, 29, 43);">Best,<br>
Moming </span></p>
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