<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Wed, Sep 2, 2026 at 7:46\u202fPM Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><span style="background-color:transparent">On one side we have the view that, if you use the fruit of my
labor, it's only fair that in exchange you not sue me. If that's
the accepted rationale for the trigger, then as a matter of logic
it should be a valid position for any kind of claim against the
licensed materials, whether copyright, trade secret, patent,
database, moral rights, etc. The further extension that Richard
identified was that any claim against the licensor, i.e., what
Facebook's BSD + Patent license tried to do, could also be fair
game. That could be a slippery slope, but I don't think anyone is
advocating for this expansio<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">n.</span></span><span style="background-color:transparent"> </span></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>The other side of the divide is the one that believes patents are
a special case with logic that doesn't extend beyond patents, as
articulated in different ways by different people for different
reasons.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">FWIW I would say the only way to make full sense of the historical record is that the community surrounding OSI saw patents as a unique problem for open source deserving unique (if any) treatment, though opinions on how an open source license can properly deal with that problem have shifted over time. </div></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Richard</div></div></div></div>