<div dir="auto" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 14px;"><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">-- Resending the messages that didn't make it to the mailing lists --</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div contenteditable="false" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&nbsp;</span></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><hr id="previousmessagehr" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; user-select: none;"><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">From</strong>: "Loncothad" &lt;me@loncothad.cc&gt;<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">Sent</strong>: 5/29/25 12:01 AM<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">To</strong>: License submissions for OSI review &lt;license-review@lists.opensource.org&gt;<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">Subject</strong>: Re: [License-review] Request for OSI Approval: Tiwaz License, version 1.0 (New License)<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></span></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 14px; box-sizing: border-box;" fr-original-style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 14px;"><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Hi.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I've updated the draft of the Tiwaz License, version 1.0.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">These commits address feedback and points raised by McCoy Smith and Carlo Piana.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Commit `4691d6a565f20fedf04aca7434a3a73f843e6080`:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">* Corrected Section 2 numbering.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">* Applied specific formatting to Sections 6 (Disclaimer of Warranty) and 7 (Limitation of Liability) to visually distinguish them, in accordance with the styling of these sections in the original Mozilla Public License, Version 2.0. This includes using blockquotes (e.g., with &gt; characters) in the Markdown version, surrounding the text with asterisks in the plain text (ASCII/TXT) version, and applying distinct visual styling (such as a highlighted background) in the HTML version.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Commit `df6f006aa151f3820b3f1f7a2e9241a40b393b5b`:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">* Added an 'Exhibit B: Acknowledgements and Relationship to MPL 2.0' section to further clarify and explicitly state that the Tiwaz License, while derived from MPL 2.0, is not affiliated with Mozilla or its projects, and is not endorsed by them.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thank you for your suggestions.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Current draft is available at&nbsp;<a data-fr-linked="true" href="https://github.com/tiwaz-license/version-1.0/tree/draft" id="isPasted" rel="noopener noreferrer" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 102, 147); text-decoration: underline; user-select: auto;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/tiwaz-license/version-1.0/tree/draft</a></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&nbsp;</span></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><hr id="previousmessagehr" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; user-select: none;"><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">From</strong>: "McCoy Smith" &lt;mccoy@lexpan.law&gt;<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">Sent</strong>: 5/28/25 8:59 PM<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">To</strong>: license-review@lists.opensource.org<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">Subject</strong>: Re: [License-review] Request for OSI Approval: Tiwaz License, version 1.0 (New License)<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></span></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">fwiw i did a compare of this license vs mpl-2.0 and posted it to github.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">i find this an easier way of reviewing licenses that are derived from a</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">preexisting license:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://github.com/McCoySmith/OSI-License-Review-Compare/blob/main/Tiwaz-1.0%20compare%20MPL-2.0.odt" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 102, 147); text-decoration: underline; user-select: auto;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/McCoySmith/OSI-License-Review-Compare/blob/main/Tiwaz-1.0%20compare%20MPL-2.0.odt</a></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">the formatting changes are generally OK although the paragraph numbering</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">in Section 2 is off. otherwise the changes are as described.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">one interesting observation. canonical MPL-2.0</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">(https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/MPL/2.0/) has the disclaimer and</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">limitation of liability highlighted in yellow. This is, I believe, to</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">address the UCC requirement (in USA law) that such</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">disclaimers/limitations be "conspicuous" which is typically done ALL</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">CAPS as colors and the like you can't do in ASCII. The SPDX and OSI</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">versions of MPL-2.0 dispense with the coloring, substituting (for SPDX)</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">a row of asterixes (and for OSI) italics. whether those count for</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">conspicuous is an interesting question, somewhat discussed by Luis Villa</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">here:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lu.is/2012/08/a-quick-note-on-conspicuous-text-also-known-as-all-caps" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 102, 147); text-decoration: underline; user-select: auto;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lu.is/2012/08/a-quick-note-on-conspicuous-text-also-known-as-all-caps</a>/</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">On 5/27/2025 5:17 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; On 5/26/25 15:57, Loncothad wrote:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;&gt; This license comes as a stricter and disambiguated version of the</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;&gt; "Mozilla Public License Version 2.0". More info on that in the README</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;&gt; of the main repository of the "Tiwaz License, version 1.0" - https://</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;&gt; github.com/tiwaz-license/version-1.0/blob/draft/README.md &lt;https://</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;&gt; github.com/tiwaz-license/version-1.0/blob/draft/README.md&gt;.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; Thank you for submitting this license proposal. &nbsp;Clarification: where</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; the opinions on these flaws in the MPL, and the revisions to them,</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; drafted by an attorney or with the help of one? &nbsp;It's not a</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; requirement, but lets us know how to regard the text of the changes.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; You're aware that removing the Secondary License clauses can make</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; Tiwaz-license software incompatible with GPL-licensed software for</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; combined works? &nbsp;Just making sure that's intended effect.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; Finally, where does the name "Tiwaz" come from? &nbsp;Note that the</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt; tiwaz.fyi domain appears to be non-functional right now.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">&gt;</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">_______________________________________________</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">The opinions expressed in this email are those of the sender and not necessarily those of the Open Source Initiative. Communication from the Open Source Initiative will be sent from an opensource.org email address.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">License-review mailing list</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">License-review@lists.opensource.org</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-review_lists.opensource.org" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 102, 147); text-decoration: underline; user-select: auto;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-review_lists.opensource.org</a></div></div></div>