<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">Hello McCoy,</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">Thank you for your feedback and for pointing out the additional requirements needed for submitting the Forever Free and Open License (FFOL). I would like to address each of your points below.</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">1. Affirmatively State OSD Compliance:</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">OSD 3 (Derived Works):</span><span class="s1"> The FFOL explicitly allows for modifications and requires that such modified works be distributed under the same terms as the original license, ensuring derivative works maintain the same level of openness.</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">OSD 5 (No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups):</span><span class="s1"> The license does not discriminate against any individual or group. No special exceptions or additional restrictions are imposed, ensuring fair and equal access for all.</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">OSD 6 (No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor):</span><span class="s1"> While the FFOL ensures that the software remains free of charge for all users, it does not restrict businesses or any other fields of endeavor from using, modifying, or distributing the software. The restriction on charging applies solely to access to the software itself, but businesses are still free to charge for services such as hosting, support, or customization. This ensures no discrimination against any specific field of endeavor.</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">OSD 9 (License Must Not Restrict Other Software):</span><span class="s1"> The FFOL applies exclusively to the licensed work and its derivative works. It does not place any restrictions on other software that may be distributed alongside it, even when included in the same medium, thereby complying with OSD 9.</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">2.</span><span class="s1"> </span><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">Identify Projects Using the License:</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">The FFOL is a new license, not a legacy one. Currently, it is not yet in use by any projects, as we are in the process of seeking approval to establish it as a viable open-source license for future adoption.</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">3.</span><span class="s1"> </span><span class="s2" style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedBody; font-weight: bold;">Describe Legal Review:</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">The FFOL has not undergone formal legal review at this time. I am open to guidance on how to proceed with obtaining such a review. If you have any recommendations or resources that could assist in this process, it would be greatly appreciated. I am committed to ensuring the license meets all necessary legal standards.</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">I hope this response addresses your concerns, and I am eager to engage in further discussions with the OSI community. If there are any additional points of clarification or changes that would help the FFOL comply with the Open Source Definition, I welcome your feedback.</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">Thank you once again for your time and valuable guidance.</span></p><p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; min-height: 22px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1"></span><br></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">Best regards,</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">Luciano.</span></p><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 13 Oct 2024, at 12:17, McCoy Smith <mccoy@lexpan.law> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>Luciano:<br>
The process for license approval has a couple of other
requirements, which it doesn't look like you've done completely
here:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process">https://opensource.org/licenses/review-process</a><br>
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<p>It looks like you haven't done the following (possibly others as
well):</p>
<p>*Affirmatively state that the license complies with the Open
Source Definition, including specifically affirming it meets OSD
3, 5, 6 and 9.<br>
*Identify what projects are already using the license.<br>
<br>
*Describe any legal review the license has been through, including
whether it was drafted by a lawyer.</p>
<p>I haven't looked through this license in detail, but it seems
that a purpose of your license is to preclude charging a fee for
software under the license, which likely violates OSD 6 (although
the definition is not explicit on that point, I think it falls
within the statement "For example, it may not restrict the program
from being used in a business").<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/12/2024 12:08 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:onaicul2008@gmail.com">onaicul2008@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am submitting a new
license, the Forever Free and Open License (FFOL), for OSI
approval. Below is a brief overview of the license, how it
complies with the Open Source Definition (OSD), and why it
is a necessary addition to the OSI-approved licenses.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Overview</span></b><span lang="EN-US">: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The Forever Free and
Open License (FFOL) ensures that the Licensed Work remains
free (both as in freedom and as in price), requiring that
all modifications be distributed under the same license. It
enforces open access to modifications, prohibits charging
for the work itself, and ensures that redistributions retain
proper attribution to original authors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Compliance with OSD</span></b><span lang="EN-US">: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN-US">The FFOL complies with the OSD by providing
the rights to freely use, modify, and redistribute the
Licensed Work.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN-US">It guarantees open access to the source code
and requires that modifications are made publicly
accessible without restriction.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN-US">It enforces strong copyleft principles while
promoting open collaboration and contribution.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rationale</span></b><span lang="EN-US">: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The FFOL is necessary to
offer a stricter copyleft license that ensures no barriers
are introduced to access or modify works. It closes
loopholes found in some existing licenses, such as
preventing gatekeeping by private groups or organizations.
It also emphasizes keeping the works fully accessible and
transparent for everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A key distinction of the
FFOL is that it ensures the works remain free not only in
terms of freedom (as defined by other licenses like GPL) but
also in terms of price. Unlike the GPL, which explicitly
permits charging for redistributions (as long as freedom to
modify is maintained), the FFOL prohibits any fees for
access to the Licensed Work itself. This guarantees that no
one is ever charged for using, sharing, or accessing the
work, ensuring a price-free distribution model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Another important
element of the FFOL is its strong emphasis on proper
attribution. It ensures that every contributor is credited
strictly for their specific contributions, with clear
boundaries set between original authorship and
modifications. This approach promotes transparency and
fairness in recognizing contributions across the lifespan of
a project, avoiding excessive or insufficient attribution
for each contributor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Attached is the final
version of the license text. I look forward to discussing it
further with the OSI community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Luciano Girotti.<o:p></o:p></p>
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