<div dir="ltr"><div><br>Pamela-san,<br><br>In Japan, please consider that copyright and moral rights are separate rights.<br><br>For example, in GPLv3, the term "copyright-like" is used in the clause defining "Copyright," and this is interpreted to include moral rights. <br>Similarly, in the MIT License and other licenses, there is no language that limits the scope to copyright alone, so it is interpreted to include moral rights as well.<br>In the case of the Apache 2.0 License, it explicitly states "copyright license," but it also grants irrevocable permission for acts such as reproduction, distribution, and modification. <br>This is interpreted as a declaration that moral rights will not be exercised.<br>Compared to these existing licenses, the expression "infringe that contributor's copyright" in the Blue Oak License is limited to copyright and may not include moral rights.<br><br>I recently learned that Japan applies moral rights most strictly among countries, so these may be specific issues unique to Japan. <br>However, since it is an issue that can be avoided with minor adjustments, as seen in the GPL, I would like to utilize a formal license re-review process if it exists.<br><br>Regarding OSAID, which is the main topic of this thread, as I mentioned in yesterday's email, some training data might include publicity rights or other such rights.</div><div>If these rights are not addressed in the license, it will be challenging to ensure free use.<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">2024/09/09 7:00 Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
On 9/8/2024 9:56 AM, Shuji Sado wrote:<br>
> In March, I pointed out that the Blue Oak Model License does not <br>
> consider moral rights.<br>
> The consensus in this thread was that, for software programs, not <br>
> considering moral rights is not an issue in most jurisdictions <br>
> worldwide, but it can be a problem in East Asian countries, <br>
> particularly in Japan.<br>
> At the time, I did not take significant action because it seemed to be <br>
> an issue limited to a few countries, and there were not many projects <br>
> adopting this license.<br>
> <a href="https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2024-March/thread.html#22222" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2024-March/thread.html#22222</a><br>
><br>
> However, recently, there was a request within my organization to apply <br>
> this license, and after discussions with multiple legal department <br>
> members who hold law degrees,<br>
> it was determined that in Japan, the Blue Oak License retains moral <br>
> rights with the authors, posing a risk that usage could be stopped at <br>
> any time.<br>
> This cannot be considered an Open Source Data license. Also, regarding <br>
> data, there are likely many jurisdictions where moral rights are not <br>
> as restricted as they are for software.<br>
<br>
Isn't this true of all open source licenses?<br>
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Pam<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Shuji Sado</div><div>Chairman, Open Source Group Japan<br><a href="https://opensource.jp/" target="_blank">https://opensource.jp/</a></div><div><a href="https://shujisado.com/" target="_blank">https://shujisado.com/</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>