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Thank you!<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela Chestek<br>
Chair, License Committee<br>
Open Source Initiative<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/20/2023 6:54 PM, Stefano Maffulli
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">And now that
the license has been approved, it has its own Approved License
page: <a href="https://opensource.org/license/icu-license/"
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at
11:34 AM Pamela Chestek <<a
href="mailto:pamela.chestek@opensource.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pamela.chestek@opensource.org</a>>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">All,<br>
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I am pleased to report that at today's Board meeting the ICU
License was <br>
approved as an OSI Approved License.<br>
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Pam<br>
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Pamela Chestek<br>
Chair, License Committee<br>
Open Source Initiative<br>
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On 10/18/2023 5:19 PM, Pamela Chestek wrote:<br>
> All,<br>
><br>
> Attached is the License Committee's recommendation to the
Board on the <br>
> approval of the ICU license. I expect that we will be
voting on this <br>
> license at the next Board meeting.<br>
><br>
> Pamela S. Chestek<br>
> Chair, License Committee<br>
> Open Source Initiative<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 8/16/2023 4:25 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote:<br>
>> Greetings,<br>
>><br>
>> I'm requesting that the ICU License be considered for
Legacy approval <br>
>> as an OSI-approved license.<br>
>><br>
>> Rationale:<br>
>><br>
>> The ICU License is used by the extremely popular
decNumber library <br>
>> (<a href="https://speleotrove.com/decimal/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://speleotrove.com/decimal/</a>),
which is dual-licensed (with the <br>
>> other option being GPL - <br>
>> <a
href="https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/tree/master/libdecnumber"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/tree/master/libdecnumber</a>).
The <br>
>> DPS8M simulator program is using the ICU License.
There are other <br>
>> major programs that redistribute ICU-licensed code
such as Bloomberg <br>
>> COMDB2, IBM NetREXX, etc.<br>
>><br>
>> Currently, Debian and Red Hat allow this license. Red
Hat via Fedora <br>
>> considers it a variant of the MIT License. See <br>
>> <a
href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:MIT#Modern_style_(ICU_Variant)"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:MIT#Modern_style_(ICU_Variant)</a>.
<br>
>> Code under this license is distributed with Android <br>
>> (<a
href="https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/deps/icu/+/refs/heads/main/LICENSE"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/deps/icu/+/refs/heads/main/LICENSE</a>).<br>
>><br>
>> ICU-licensed code is included in more than 2,500
projects on GitHub - <br>
>> see <br>
>> <a
href="https://github.com/search?q=%22COPYRIGHT+AND+PERMISSION+NOTICE%22+%22ICU+License%22&type=code"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/search?q=%22COPYRIGHT+AND+PERMISSION+NOTICE%22+%22ICU+License%22&type=code</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> The chances of decNumber being re-licensed by IBM is
essentially zero <br>
>> (or I simply don't know who to talk to), which means
that all code <br>
>> that derives from the ICU-licensed decNumber is not
under an OSI <br>
>> approved license. GitLab, for example, is not
extending their free <br>
>> "Ultimate for Open Source Developers" for DPS8M and
other projects <br>
>> due to the use of "non-OSI licensed" (ICU-licensed
code) - they (and <br>
>> many others) will only allow explicitly listed
OSI-approved licenses.<br>
>><br>
>> The use of ICU Licensed code has come up as well in
other projects, <br>
>> where there was confusion as to the status of the
ICU-licensed code, <br>
>> and, wanting an OSI-approved license, decNumber code
was replaced <br>
>> with other libraries, and finally reverted, a waste
of time for all <br>
>> involved.<br>
>><br>
>> Distinguish:<br>
>><br>
>> The ICU License is very functionally similar to the
MIT License. Red <br>
>> Hat / Fedora considers the ICU license to be a
variant of the MIT <br>
>> license. It differs in four areas:<br>
>><br>
>> 1) The grant of rights is explicit between Software
and Documentation <br>
>> rather than both as a "work" (... provided that the
above copyright <br>
>> notice(s) and this permission notice appear in all
copies of the <br>
>> Software and that both the above copyright notice(s)
and this <br>
>> permission notice appear in supporting
documentation.)<br>
>><br>
>> 2) It does not explicitly list "sublicense" as a
right granted.<br>
>><br>
>> 3) It disclaims all warranties, but the list of of
these (including <br>
>> but not limited to) is slightly different (explicitly
excluding only <br>
>> noninfringement of third party rights, etc).<br>
>><br>
>> 4) It includes a non-publicity clause: "Except as
contained in this <br>
>> notice, the name of a copyright holder shall not be
used in <br>
>> advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or
other dealings <br>
>> in this Software without prior written authorization
of the copyright <br>
>> holder."<br>
>><br>
>> Legal review:<br>
>><br>
>> I am not aware of any published legal review of the
specific text of <br>
>> this license.<br>
>><br>
>> Full Text:<br>
>><br>
>> Full text of the ICU License, with optional text
bracketed:<br>
>><br>
>> ```<br>
>> COPYRIGHT AND PERMISSION NOTICE<br>
>><br>
>> Copyright (c) yyyy-yyyy copyright holder<br>
>><br>
>> [All Rights Reserved.]<br>
>><br>
>> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any
person obtaining <br>
>> a copy of this software and associated documentation
files (the <br>
>> "Software"), to deal in the Software without
restriction, including <br>
>> without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify,
merge, publish, <br>
>> distribute, and/or sell copies of the Software, and
to permit persons <br>
>> to whom the Software is furnished to do so, provided
that the above <br>
>> copyright notice(s) and this permission notice appear
in all copies <br>
>> of the Software and that both the above copyright
notice(s) and this <br>
>> permission notice appear in supporting documentation.<br>
>><br>
>> THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF
ANY KIND, <br>
>> EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE
WARRANTIES OF <br>
>> MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND
NONINFRINGEMENT <br>
>> OF THIRD PARTY RIGHTS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
COPYRIGHT HOLDER OR <br>
>> HOLDERS INCLUDED IN THIS NOTICE BE LIABLE FOR ANY
CLAIM, OR ANY <br>
>> SPECIAL INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, OR ANY
DAMAGES WHATSOEVER <br>
>> RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER
IN AN ACTION OF <br>
>> CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION,
ARISING OUT OF OR IN <br>
>> CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS
SOFTWARE.<br>
>><br>
>> Except as contained in this notice, the name of a
copyright holder <br>
>> shall not be used in advertising or otherwise to
promote the sale, <br>
>> use or other dealings in this Software without prior
written <br>
>> authorization of the copyright holder.<br>
>> ```<br>
>><br>
>> Recommended proliferation category:<br>
>><br>
>> I would consider this license to be a Legacy license
- "Licenses that <br>
>> are redundant with more popular licenses" and not to
be recommended <br>
>> for new projects.<br>
>><br>
>> -- <br>
>> Jeffrey H. Johnson<br>
>> <a href="mailto:trnsz@pobox.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">trnsz@pobox.com</a><br>
>><br>
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