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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/14/2022 4:24 AM, Carlo Piana
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/2022 2:45 PM, Carlo Piana
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">You must ensure that the recipients of the Subject Matter of the License or
Derivative Works are obligated to incorporate the provisions of this Section 4
into any license under which they distribute the Subject Matter of the License
or Derivative Works to any other recipients.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">This provision requires the "You" to a legal effect. As a general remark, this is an open ended obligation and IMVHO a bad design decision, since the legal effect depends on many different circumstances outside the control of the "You", including intent, capacity, errors, lack of proper form etc. You can surely include perform an obligation as a condition of the grant, but including a legal effect is to me really really seeking for trouble.
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<div class="moz-signature">Carlo, I'm not following what you're
saying. Are you saying that the Licensor has some liability if
the user doesn't actually incorporate the provisions of
Section 4 into their downstream license?</div>
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<div>Sorry Pam, I have written poorly<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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<div>I meant "This provision requires the "You" to **achieve** a
legal effect." The obligation requires that *the recipients** be
"obligated". Here it is more of a guarantee, something that you
are liable for and not necessarily control, so the risk is on
you whatever it happens.<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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Thanks, that's very helpful.<br>
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Pam<br>
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Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
PO Box 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
(919) 800-8033<br>
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