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Larry,<br>
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As others have pointed out, there's a difference between my duty to
comply with laws, in which case compliance with those laws may mean
I am not at liberty to exercise the license granted to me, and
whether or not the license to me terminates because I failed in a
duty not to break the law. It is the latter situation that is a
violation of OSD6 and the objection to the license under review. <br>
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If you believe that the language in the 3D Slicer license doesn't
terminate the license I'd be interested in hearing how you parse the
sentence. For your reference, the sentence is: "You further agree to
use, reproduce, make derivative works of, display and distribute the
Software in compliance with all applicable governmental laws,
regulations and orders, including without limitation those relating
to export and import control."<br>
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Pam<br>
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On 6/8/2021 4:49 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Simon, I’ve never been to Thailand nor
reviewed its software laws. But in the US, if you distribute
open source software that violates the export law of the US,
you could go to jail. “Open source” is irrelevant. Copyright
law is irrelevant. /Larry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lawrence Rosen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt">3001 King
Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lawrence Rosen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com"><lrosen@rosenlaw.com></a>;
License submissions for OSI review
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [License-review] request for review of
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Lawrence Rosen <<a href="mailto:lrosen@rosenlaw.com"
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style="margin-left:.5in">Here is AFL 3.0, section
15:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open
Sans",sans-serif;color:#444444;background:#FCFCFC">15) <b>Right
to Use.</b> You may use the Original Work in all
ways not otherwise restricted or conditioned by
this License or by law, and Licensor promises not
to interfere with or be responsible for such uses
by You.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please help me understand this. If I
were in Thailand and used AFL 3.0 licensed software to
publish a call for a republic, would I be in breach of
the author's copyright as well as in breach of their <i>lese
majeste</i> laws? <o:p></o:p></p>
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