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There are lots of lawyers on the list; if any thought that the
position had merit I would have expected that person to pipe up.
Given that it's a position that appears to be held by one person,
and that no one else, lawyer and non-lawyer alike, has expressed
support for (only musing about what the theory might possibly be),
and there have been a number of logical arguments why it can't be
true, I don't see paying someone as a good use of financial
resources. We manage to sort out all the other legal tangles without
paying a lawyer.<br>
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Fedora considers it acceptable:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Good_Licenses">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Good_Licenses</a><br>
The FSF finds it acceptable and compatible with the GNU GPL:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#Unlicense">https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#Unlicense</a><br>
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I'm not jumping off a cliff because others have, but then they
appear to have landed safely.<br>
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Pam<br>
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Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
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On 5/15/2020 10:25 AM, Eric Schultz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">May I propose that we could end this discussion if
OSI could pay for an hour or two of an open source-experienced
European copyright attorney's time?
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<div dir="auto">It seems to be in OSI's interest to not promote
a license that may have a pitfall in it and, while the
discussion has been passionate and well-intentioned, it all
seems to obscure the fact that none of us seem to really know
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:32 AM
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at 1:34 PM Langley, Stuart <<a
href="mailto:Stuart.Langley@disney.com"
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<div>The issue this creates is that the author
can’t make a valid transfer to the public
domain. Transfers are not allowed. The
author’s completely clear and unambiguous
intent to transfer does not change that. The
only option is to license sufficient
rights. Without a license, even if the
author does not assert copyright, their
heirs might.</div>
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<div>OSI has previously advised that "public domain"
does not qualify as open source because exactly this
sort of issue, varying in scope and consequence
globally, prevents developers from being sure they
have the necessary rights without consulting another
person first. See <a
href="https://opensource.org/node/878"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://opensource.org/node/878</a></div>
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The difference with the Unlicense is that it <i>also</i>
clearly states what rights are granted. Does that not
resolve any concern with the Unlicense?<br>
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Pam<br>
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Chestek Legal<br>
PO Box 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
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