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    What?? What on earth are you talking about? No one has ever
    suggested to me, nor have I suggested to anyone, that the opinions
    of anyone are not to be considered.<br>
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    Pam <br>
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    <div class="moz-signature">Pamela Chestek<br>
      Chair, License Review Committee<br>
      Open Source Initiative</div>
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      On 1/1/2020 11:52 PM, Bruce Perens via License-review wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Don't waste your time, Bradley. They were told not
        to listen to you, either. </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 6:29 PM
          Bradley M. Kuhn <<a href="mailto:bkuhn@ebb.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">bkuhn@ebb.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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          can't find an example when OSI approved a novel copyleft
          license that<br>
          hadn't yet been used in practice and therefore had no track
          record of use<br>
          for any FOSS project.  It was once somewhat common for OSI to
          approve<br>
          licenses that were used by only one entity, and most of those
          licenses were<br>
          never used beyond the one project, and even most of those
          entities have<br>
          deprecated those by now.  (OSI also made a decision to cease
          considering<br>
          such single-use licenses.)  Rapid acceptance of a novel
          licenses, so far<br>
          unused in practice, causes confusion in the FOSS community.<br>
          <br>
          Folks have shouted down Bruce as he wonders how Van's license
          will be used<br>
          in practice.  I think Bruce has made a useful point on this
          thread: as a<br>
          general matter, it's relevant that we consider how the license
          impacts<br>
          users' *and* software publishers' software freedoms in
          *practice*, not<br>
          merely *in theory*.<br>
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          In that regard, I'd like to know if the project that plans to
          use this<br>
          license will be inbound=outbound (i.e., is the entity that's
          promulgating<br>
          this new license willing to bound themselves by the license
          terms)?  Van,<br>
          could you tell us, on behalf of your client (who appears to be
          the only<br>
          potential licensor interested in this license), what their
          contribution<br>
          plans are regarding this license?  Are they planning to accept
          contributions<br>
          under this license, and thus be bound by it for their FOSS
          projects?<br>
          If not, why not?<br>
          -- <br>
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          Bradley M. Kuhn - he/him<br>
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          Conservancy:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Bruce Perens - Partner, <a
                href="http://OSS.Capital" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">OSS.Capital</a>.</div>
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