<div dir="auto">Using the convinced works exception would be similar in effect (not exactly the same, but similar) to what exists in the Linux kernel today.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Without the exception, it would be more similar to the Joomla or WordPress ecosystem (again, not exactly, but similar).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto">Van<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">__________________________<br>Van Lindberg<br><a href="mailto:van.lindberg@gmail.com">van.lindberg@gmail.com</a><br>m: 214.364.7985</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 1:22 PM Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The Holochain website talks about doing things like running
a social <br>
network client. Would that social network software have to
be under an <br>
open source license?<br>
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<div>This comes down to the licensor's choice. If the licensor
used the CAL without the Combined Works Exception, then this
would have the effect of ensuring that the software stayed
open source - modulo standard copyright rules that would
tend to allow different licenses as the link between the
CAL-licensed framework and other software became more
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<div>In the case of Holochain, Holo intends to use the
Combined Works exception to allow differently-licensed
software "on top" of the CAL-licensed framework. As an
analogy, think of the external vs. internal interfaces split
already used in the Linux kernel.</div>
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<p>Isn't it more similar to the outcome if the Linux kernel hadn't
clarified that what is in user space didn't need to be under the
GPL? If the Linux kernel was under the CAL, wouldn't all the
applications that run on it also have to be under open source
licenses, unless the licensor had the Combined Works exception?<br>
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<p>Pam</p>
Pamela S. Chestek <br>
Chestek Legal <br>
PO Box 2492 <br>
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