<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
On 8/25/19 10:16 AM, Henrik Ingo wrote:<br><br>
> 2. I for one certainly wish that copyright legislation was more<br>
> friendly to duffers (I don't know what that word means, really...) and<br>
> less biased to favor big corporations who use every opportunity to<br>
> maximize their powers. But I don't see how any of this is Van's fault.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We went to some trouble to make Open Source friendly to duffers. Van's "fault" is that he wants to break that for his license AND keep the result within the Open Source brand. One or the other, please. I am also finding that the extreme AGPL interpretations are not useful and are mostly diversion from considering the CAL as we should.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">(Maybe that's not a realistic hypothetical, I don't know - does everything have Javascript?)</blockquote><div><br></div><div>A Wordpress module has the potential to provide PHP, HTML, Javascript, CSS. Although it is modular, all of the PHP pieces are interpreted together as one program. There can be use of Javascript, or not, but everything you are seeing is the result of a PHP program creating an ephemeral HTML document.</div><div><br></div><div>There is also some question in my mind regarding who created the combined work. I tend to view the combination happening when the module developer creates instructions that cause that combination, not when the naive user executes those instructions. The person who set the bomb is responsible for its explosion, not the person who tread upon the trigger.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
My point is this is well beyond the AGPL. For the AGPL, two more things have to happen before I have to provide the source code, I have to have<br>
modified the code and a user has to be able to interact with the program. For those who think that the AGPL is too far, or the outermost appropriate reach for copyleft, the CAL is beyond that. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Concur.</div><div><br></div><div> Thanks</div><div><br></div><div> Bruce </div></div></div>