<div dir="ltr"><div>Pam<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:10 AM Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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As a complete duffer in software, this provision is troublesome to
me. It goes well beyond offering a service. This is the same example
I used on the last review of this license, so forgive me for
repeating it. Suppose I put up my homemade website and want a widget
that displays my Twitter feed. I look at my options among the
various addons and extensions and pick one that looks like it's just
the ticket. Woe is me if I picked one under the CAL. Having the
widget on my website is not a private use and so I have to make the
source code available, plus provide notices and attribution on my
website for the widget. I suspect anyone would be surprised that
they had incurred such a burden.<br>
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Still speaking entirely personally.<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's already been pointed out that the exact same questions arise with the AGPL license. But I wanted to point out that your hypothetical really highlights how it's simply not a realistic goal to say that a user must be able to safely copy code from the internet without understanding licensing. That is not the case for software in general, nor open source. A lot of code on github is not under any open source license anyway, so just cavalierly copying some widget code to your website is a bad idea. And that's why at least in my university CS education we were trained not to do that.</div><div><br></div><div>That said, OSI should not approve licenses with unexpected or hazardous requirements on users. I should not be obligated to water your plants, for example.<br></div><div><br></div><div>(If your widget is client side JavaScript then also GPL and LGPL will require you to provide source.)<br></div><div><br></div><div> henrik</div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><a href="mailto:henrik.ingo@avoinelama.fi" target="_blank">henrik.ingo@avoinelama.fi</a><br>+358-40-5697354 skype: henrik.ingo irc: hingo<br><a href="http://www.openlife.cc" target="_blank">www.openlife.cc</a><br><br>My LinkedIn profile: <a href="http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7" target="_blank">http://fi.linkedin.com/pub/henrik-ingo/3/232/8a7</a></div></div>