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    Hi Wayne,<br>
    <br>
    Since you started a discussion about this license on
    license-discuss, we are going to assume that you have withdrawn the
    submission from the OSI's consideration for now. <br>
    <br>
    Best regards,<br>
    <br>
    Pam<br>
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      Pamela Chestek<br>
      Chair, License Review Committee<br>
      Open Source Initiative<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/27/2019 10:09 AM, Pamela Chestek
      wrote:<br>
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      HI Wayne,<br>
      <br>
      Thank you for submitting the license. I agree with the others who
      have commented; the license is quite difficult to understand
      because of the misuse of many English words and grammatical
      errors. There are also writing techniques and conventions that
      make a licenses clearer and more predictably applied that are
      absent from this license.<br>
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      Then, because of the difficulty of the text, I cannot work on
      understanding the licensing concepts you are proposing.<br>
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      I suggest that you withdraw the license for now because of the
      further work that is needed. I would also suggest starting a
      thread on license-discuss (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
        href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org"
        moz-do-not-send="true">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a>)
      about the concepts that you would like to employ, to get feedback
      on whether they would be acceptable for an approved license. If
      after discussion it appears that the OSI might approve a license
      of the type you propose, you can get assistance with conveying the
      concepts more clearly in a legal document and resubmitting the
      revised version.<br>
      <br>
      Best regards,<br>
      <br>
      Pam<br>
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      <div class="moz-signature">Pamela Chestek <br>
        Chair, License Review Committee <br>
        Open Source Initiative</div>
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        On 5/27/2019 9:18 AM, Wayne A Rangel wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">This license does not include stating sources
          like tcl that are licensed with BSD like license to be within
          or followed with this, We showed an example site and we are
          not talking about AndroWish(we are
          <div>talking in General) which could not be different from
            what you talk about. Yes, you are right, accessible from
            fossil, but not accessible from within web, within a normal
            static browser(transcripted use), it does not necessarily
            mean its should be in a repository or in a page. It should
            be accessible as raw data(can be in any interface and
            doesn't mean anyone can come and edit the raw data but
            should be accessible). And thanks for figuring out the
            grammatical errors. We will fix it soon.<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 27 May 2019 at
            18:26, Christopher Sean Morrison via License-review <<a
              href="mailto:license-review@lists.opensource.org"
              moz-do-not-send="true">license-review@lists.opensource.org</a>>
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                    <div>From: Wayne A Rangel <<a
                        href="mailto:waynerangelboy@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">waynerangelboy@gmail.com</a>></div>
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                      <div>Master-Console's Open-Source Definitive
                        License is for a whole purpose of<br>
                        open-source projects<br>
                        out there. Master-Console Inc.(<a
                          href="https://master-console-inc.tk"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://master-console-inc.tk</a>)
                        is the owner<br>
                        of this license and founded this license as
                        other licenses out there like<br>
                        Apache License or GPL were not actually
                        compatible for security reasons the<br>
                        project was working on, therefore we casted a
                        custom license which would</div>
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                      <div>not only help ourselves but the millions of
                        open-source projects out there<br>
                        but it can't be done without proper approval and
                        verification, then only it<br>
                        can seem for the license to help and people
                        using it would think so.</div>
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                  <div>Correct me if I’m mistaken, but you seem to be
                    conflating your desire that some 3rd party had
                    chosen a different Open Source license with the need
                    for a different Open Source license to exist.  The
                    “transcripted use” example that you provide seems to
                    be such a case, and a poor one at that because the
                    Tcl/Tk license is very permissive.</div>
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                      <div>This<br>
                        license was created with similarity to some
                        popular licenses and with<br>
                        essential security features which those licenses
                        lacked like prevention of<br>
                        transcripted use. Transcripted use means which
                        reveals the source publicly<br>
                        but does not let users access actual content,
                        download and verify the<br>
                        integrity of the project, thus harming the
                        open-source terms. An example<br>
                        could be this: <a
                          href="https://www.androwish.org/index.html/tree?ci=tip"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.androwish.org/index.html/tree?ci=tip</a>
                        which does<br>
                        let access to view but does not let access to
                        part of the original source<br>
                        in it and forcibly acts to download all the
                        source.</div>
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                  <div>I fail to see where there is denied access to any
                    part of the original source to AndroWish.  It’s in a
                    Fossil repository which can be publicly cloned: <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Dejavu Sans Mono",Monaco,"Lucida Console",monospace;font-size:0.9em;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(243,243,243)">fossil clone <a href="http://anonymous:www.androwish.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://anonymous:www.androwish.org</a> androwish.fossil</span></div>
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                  Even if it were not in a public repository and even if
                  source were not provided, they'd still be in full
                  compliance with the original Tcl/Tk license terms —
                  the license only requires they include a verbatim copy
                  of the license in any distributions.  Is there some
                  distribution of AndroWish that does not provide the
                  license terms? </div>
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                      <div>   "Creator" shall mean the one who has all
                        the copyright owns of one' own product who can
                        license, unlicense or change the circumstances
                        to comply<br>
                                     with this product but not the
                        definitions of this license. The Creator does
                        not mean the one who has created the product, it
                        only does<br>
                                     mean the one who firstly licensed
                        and published the product.<br>
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                  <div>I must admit that I stopped reading the license
                    at this point.  There are many grammatical and other
                    errors throughout the document, such as using “owns”
                    as a noun, that should be grounds for rejection
                    alone.</div>
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                  <div>Sean</div>
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