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Hi Wayne,<br>
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Since you started a discussion about this license on
license-discuss, we are going to assume that you have withdrawn the
submission from the OSI's consideration for now. <br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Pam<br>
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Pamela Chestek<br>
Chair, License Review Committee<br>
Open Source Initiative<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/27/2019 10:09 AM, Pamela Chestek
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HI Wayne,<br>
<br>
Thank you for submitting the license. I agree with the others who
have commented; the license is quite difficult to understand
because of the misuse of many English words and grammatical
errors. There are also writing techniques and conventions that
make a licenses clearer and more predictably applied that are
absent from this license.<br>
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Then, because of the difficulty of the text, I cannot work on
understanding the licensing concepts you are proposing.<br>
<br>
I suggest that you withdraw the license for now because of the
further work that is needed. I would also suggest starting a
thread on license-discuss (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:license-discuss@lists.opensource.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">license-discuss@lists.opensource.org</a>)
about the concepts that you would like to employ, to get feedback
on whether they would be acceptable for an approved license. If
after discussion it appears that the OSI might approve a license
of the type you propose, you can get assistance with conveying the
concepts more clearly in a legal document and resubmitting the
revised version.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela Chestek <br>
Chair, License Review Committee <br>
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On 5/27/2019 9:18 AM, Wayne A Rangel wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">This license does not include stating sources
like tcl that are licensed with BSD like license to be within
or followed with this, We showed an example site and we are
not talking about AndroWish(we are
<div>talking in General) which could not be different from
what you talk about. Yes, you are right, accessible from
fossil, but not accessible from within web, within a normal
static browser(transcripted use), it does not necessarily
mean its should be in a repository or in a page. It should
be accessible as raw data(can be in any interface and
doesn't mean anyone can come and edit the raw data but
should be accessible). And thanks for figuring out the
grammatical errors. We will fix it soon.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 27 May 2019 at
18:26, Christopher Sean Morrison via License-review <<a
href="mailto:license-review@lists.opensource.org"
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href="mailto:waynerangelboy@gmail.com"
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<div>Master-Console's Open-Source Definitive
License is for a whole purpose of<br>
open-source projects<br>
out there. Master-Console Inc.(<a
href="https://master-console-inc.tk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://master-console-inc.tk</a>)
is the owner<br>
of this license and founded this license as
other licenses out there like<br>
Apache License or GPL were not actually
compatible for security reasons the<br>
project was working on, therefore we casted a
custom license which would</div>
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<div>not only help ourselves but the millions of
open-source projects out there<br>
but it can't be done without proper approval and
verification, then only it<br>
can seem for the license to help and people
using it would think so.</div>
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<div>Correct me if I’m mistaken, but you seem to be
conflating your desire that some 3rd party had
chosen a different Open Source license with the need
for a different Open Source license to exist. The
“transcripted use” example that you provide seems to
be such a case, and a poor one at that because the
Tcl/Tk license is very permissive.</div>
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<div>This<br>
license was created with similarity to some
popular licenses and with<br>
essential security features which those licenses
lacked like prevention of<br>
transcripted use. Transcripted use means which
reveals the source publicly<br>
but does not let users access actual content,
download and verify the<br>
integrity of the project, thus harming the
open-source terms. An example<br>
could be this: <a
href="https://www.androwish.org/index.html/tree?ci=tip"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.androwish.org/index.html/tree?ci=tip</a>
which does<br>
let access to view but does not let access to
part of the original source<br>
in it and forcibly acts to download all the
source.</div>
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<div>I fail to see where there is denied access to any
part of the original source to AndroWish. It’s in a
Fossil repository which can be publicly cloned: <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Dejavu Sans Mono",Monaco,"Lucida Console",monospace;font-size:0.9em;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(243,243,243)">fossil clone <a href="http://anonymous:www.androwish.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://anonymous:www.androwish.org</a> androwish.fossil</span></div>
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Even if it were not in a public repository and even if
source were not provided, they'd still be in full
compliance with the original Tcl/Tk license terms —
the license only requires they include a verbatim copy
of the license in any distributions. Is there some
distribution of AndroWish that does not provide the
license terms? </div>
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<div> "Creator" shall mean the one who has all
the copyright owns of one' own product who can
license, unlicense or change the circumstances
to comply<br>
with this product but not the
definitions of this license. The Creator does
not mean the one who has created the product, it
only does<br>
mean the one who firstly licensed
and published the product.<br>
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<div>I must admit that I stopped reading the license
at this point. There are many grammatical and other
errors throughout the document, such as using “owns”
as a noun, that should be grounds for rejection
alone.</div>
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<div>Sean</div>
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