<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello Nigel,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 4:07 PM Nigel T <<a href="mailto:nigel.2048@gmail.com">nigel.2048@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I gave you an example of hard to access user data you choose to delete. If you can’t go backwards one email message to address it then how do expect a non-developer operator to access user data that isn’t easily accessible through the software?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I apologize for not seeing that part of your question, it was in the middle of a paragraph most of the way down. There was no intent to ignore your question.</div><div><br></div><div>If I have located it correctly, your question was:</div><div><br></div><div>>
An example might be “I want all my comments
and ratings on other people’s photos returned to me”. The user can
still see their comments and ratings on the site but the operator has no
easy way of pulling that data out for them because the package doesn’t
provide such a mechanism. They would have to
pay someone to either do manual database queries or extend the software
to be able to dump that data. <br></div><div><br></div><div>If someone is acting as an operator providing services to another person, then yes, they would need to provide a copy of the source code and a person's user data, even if there is not a particular "export data" functionality built into the software. You point out that this may take time and require someone to do some work. That is correct - but it is no different than someone not being prepared to offer complete corresponding source. Many of us have advised entities on how to put together CCS (which involved time, money, and outside expertise).</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Also if anyone can request anything they have a copyright license to they can go to any CAL licensed site and say “give me everything licensed CC-BY” whether they uploaded it or not. If simply having a license provides “possessory interest” then that would be valid. That, however, is another question: does a license give you “possessory interest” in the context of copyright.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This does not follow. The availability of a work with an offer to license under particular terms does not automatically make a person a licensee. If a person took some action to take possession of the works, then they would likely be a licensee and thus have those items be user data under the CAL. But your "give me everything" hypothetical is not operative.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Thanks,<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Van<br></div></div>