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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sorry for this extra email. I meant OSL 3.0 §§1(d) and 1(e). /Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 10, 2019 3:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'License submissions for OSI review' <license-review@lists.opensource.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [License-review] For Approval: The Cryptographic Autonomy License<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Van wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>> </span>I am not sure that further reiteration or rebuttal will bring any more light<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>FWIW, now that you have all spoken at length about CAL, I want to express my "vote" against approval of that license. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1. I agree that there is a performance copyright. It is explicit in 17 USC 106, and I have personally included that performance grant in my own licenses (OSL §3(</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444;background:#FCFCFC'>d) "to perform the Original Work publicly")</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>. However, it has nothing to do with normal execution of a software program on a computer by a user. Rather, I view it as a grant relating to (e.g.) music that is produced when software is executed. Refer also to the display of a work on a website like YouTube to show how the software works (this latter is the "display" copyright in § 17 USC 106, or in OSL §3(e) "to display the Original Work publicly"). Beyond those limited applications, there is only slight value to a performance or display grant in a software license.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2. The application of CAL to data is troubling to me. Data is not copyrightable as such; it is the collection and organization of that data that is copyrighted, not the individual pieces of data which are free to be copied, like true (or false?) facts. I do, however, encourage the adoption of protections like GDPL for "personal data." I wish we had similar protection in the U.S. for the collection and protection of personal data by Facebook and similar applications. That would require a statutory scheme, not a software license. But other non-personal data should be free as the wind and it usually is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don't vote here, but I express opinions about license approval or disapproval.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>/Larry</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>